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Create a new "hardcore" and "normal" server label

General Discussion
#21

Lol you do realize the casual "newbies’ you speak of will be all over your server once they copy all your builds. Trying keep your build secret forever like it hasn’t already been flushed out forever in kToS. Stat and Skill resets are coming. Whether you like it or not.

That aside, on the topic of a real hardcore and casual server:

Hardcore servers should have server-wide PK. This should be the only real difference. Player Killing and item drop on death is a good start. Focusing on stat/skill resets doesn’t really change anything, people will happily try all options on casual then reroll their ‘perfect’ build on hardcore.

#22

Your point? rank 8 I’ll either be musketeer 2 or whatever new class that goes well with musketeer(Hint: There is going to be more than 1 rank 8 class)

#23

With open pvp and an exp gain for killing players. Also no exp cards from quests.

“I am so hardcore I don’t need skill or stat reset” yea right… that’s not hardcore at all.

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#24

Just add a TP item to obtain max level on the normal server too. Just in case leveling isn’t fun enough. You know, with all these jobs and responsibilities the casuals have, they can’t be bothered to level.

Oh yeah and make sure to add a TP to silver option. When you have a job, family and obligations, you can’t really afford to grind.

#25

Perma death sounds reasonable for this

Surely if you do enough research on how to play skillfully and stat your character accordingly you shouldn’t be dying anyway

Just do research on how you should stat yourself and what classes to take

#26

this to no exp cards it has to be hardcore after all

#27

No offense but this is a terrible idea. Mostly since the fact that there are over 300 levels, no real trading system, market takes 30-2hrs to post/48 hrs to recieve silver., and has only 2-3 dungeon/mission and no real grind zone till later on in the 145+. So making a hardcore server would just be a huge waste of time.

#28

That’s the point

It’s for people that want a huge waste of time

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#29

What about the people who don’t know how to save EXP cards? They’d be wasting a lot of time, especially mid-game when they have no cards and need to grind to keep up with quests.

Better sell EXP cards, maybe level ups, just in case.

#30

I think you should drop all tradable gear that you are wearing upon death as well

gives more insentive to pvp

#31

Any new “Hardcore” server would have to be implemented for all of the other servers, otherwise it’d be “Hardcore(but only US players can play it bc of ping)” and that’s not really all that healthy.
We need just a few servers loaded with people, not a bunch of empty ones.

#32

Maybe you should go play on a fun-server if thats what you want, our server is a normal server, it’s not that kind of game there. we know that because IMC said so.

#33

It should be though. If you have a job and a family and can only play like 1-2 hours a day, you can’t be bothered grinding. Best to sell EXP cards in the cash shop.

IMC gets more money, everyone wins.

#34

Not sure if you’re paying attention servers are already like that so its not much difference.

Even in klaipedia I’ve cleared several zones without seeing a soul.

The servers as they are now are already are that kind of game! Go buy hundreds of EXP times so that you always have one active 100% of the time, then never let the buff fall off! Casual!

#35

Man you put more thought into the last one. I read through this whole thing only to find out it was another self-righteous validation meant to debase those dirty ‘no-reset’ nay sayers. Can we get a forum reset to get back that wasted time? This was too hardcore.

This is the intelligent discussion you wanted right? Vitriolic remarks under the guise of pertinence.

#36

Nah but that requires you to play the game. When you have a job, kids and other nameless responsibilities, you don’t have time to do that. You gotta sell cards. Only takes a few clicks. I know the casuals are busy, but I am sure they can manage a few hundred clicks everyday to level up!

#37

lol perm death? there will be 0 wiz and arcgers

#38

You telling me there aren’t any hardcore wizards and archers out there?

Only people who don’t do their research would put theirselves in positions where they would die. Hardcore players do this, so there’s nothing to worry about.

If they die they should just reroll, after studying a bit more. After all it’s pretty fun to reroll. You’ll reroll and you’ll like it.

#39

sure there are, but the hardcore server will be 60% clerics ( ftw ), 30% seordmen and like 5% archers and wizards (the brave ones) and they wont make it over lvl 20 lol.

#40

Good points were made about reductionist mentality. Thanks man.