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Corsair questions

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#1

Is Corsair a dual wield melee class? I’m planning to use it but I want to be absolutely sure that it’s best dual wielding and I wouldn’t be using a sword/shield.

and if so, what would be a good class path to take? It seems like my options are basically Swordsman for 3 ranks, then Rodelero (I guess for the Montano skill?) then Corsair, or Swordsman for 2 ranks and Barbarian for 2 ranks before Corsair. or go through Higherlander? I have no clue. I want to be able to do a lot of damage and maybe be viable in PVP

#2

yes it’s the best class for dual wielding, but you only get the skill on rank 6.
about the path, i would recomendo going all offenseive classes, getting all the attack power buffs.

and about being viable on pvp, no. you wont even get close to people, and if you think i’m kidding just watch a pvp video.

#3

Yes it is dual wield, it uses a skill so that you can auto attack with both main and sub weapon without delay so you’re attacking really fast. You have many choices truthfully.

Swordsman > Hoplite (for crit assassin build with spear and dagger) > Corsair
Swordsman > Barbarian (for buffs against both mobs and bosses) > Corsair
Swordsman > Highlander (for skills and debuff from those skills I think) > Corsair

You also won’t be getting close to enemies in pvp but as corsair you can capture a target and bring them closer to you. You just have to get skilled at targeting enemies. Also play together with a cleric who can use safety zone while you use the Iron Hook and Keel Hauling skills on an enemy so you won’t die by just chasing the enemy who can kite you forever.

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#4

I don’t think I want to go Spear/Dagger, and that hadn’t even crossed my mind (like Hilde from Soul Calibur?!)

I want to go Sword&dagger/dagger&dagger (if that even exists). I just like it on a conceptual level.

you didn’t even mention going Swordsman x3 and then Rodelero and grab Montano. why not? it says it can paralyze.

but I just want to do whatever be most offensive I guess. I’m surprised you say corsair can’t pvp.

#5

I didn’t mention Rodelero because you’d only be grabbing that class for one skill. The others require you to use a shield which you wouldn’t be using at all.

If you’re set on using sword and dagger (dagger + dagger is not a combo) then Swordsman C2 > Barbarian C2 > Corsair C2 is your best bet considering auto attacks would be the main damage and thus buffs are your main concern.

Highlander just doesn’t have enough of those although it is still a viable build if you want to have some damaging skills along with the auto attacks.

#6

We have to confirm that Finestra doesn’t require 1H spear + shield. In that case, can’t use that buff with sub weapon cancel. I have yet to see anyone dual wield spear and dagger so far in any cbt.

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#7

Okay, I’ll keep your suggestion in mind about swordsman x2, barbarian x2.

although going Rodelero for one skill would be pointless, it would also mean getting Swordsman buffs like Gung Ho or Concentrate to a higher level with swordsman rank 3.

If I did go for Barbarian at the 3rd rank, would “aggressor” even be good for corsair, because it reduced critical? (usually fast attackers want some crit) – I have no idea what savagery does, because the translation for it on tosbase makes little sense to me.

#8

I’m unsure if the new version of the Subweapon Cancel skill works the same as before. The definition seems different and even the name of the skill is. Right now its called Double Weapon Assault. It seems as if you have to combo with a sword attack. So I guess it only works with Dagger/Sword combo.

Personally, I’ll be making my Corsair with shield and sword because it will have way more CC skills for pvp.

#9

While it is true that you would lose out on getting gung ho and concentrate to higher levels, you gain extra buffs like war cry and flange (which was nerfed but still viable for corsair since you’re doing such fast auto attacks) which increase your damage a lot more depending on your situation.

Flange would work well for bosses as they are stationary for a few second at a time usually.

Warcry would work well for bossing (since traps and mobs spawn with bosses) as well as mobbing since it increases your attack for the amount of defense lowered.

Savagery seems to just increase the amount of attacks done when using a stabbing attack such as thrust and embowel so unless you have a ton of stabbing attacks (which seems like a cataphract buffing skill) don’t take it.

Aggressor however depends on what you want. If you want the skill to do guaranteed hit, take it. If you want the crit chance that it takes away, don’t take it.

#10

hopefully dual wielding is still strong. It seems like Corsair is basically your only hope for a dual wielder melee class.

#11

The thing is, I’m looking at Barbarian, and wouldn’t that also end up giving me 1 basically useless rank?

my common sense tells me aggressor wouldn’t be good to go for due to the nature of dual wielding classes, more attacks = more critical opportunities, so I wouldnt want to lower crit in any way. and then the other self buff, savagery, apparently won’t work with sword+dagger and is for spears (not sure, just read on the forums).

So rank 3 of barbarian would only net me Embowel and Stomping Kick to use on my corsair. is that worth LV5 Warcry and LV5 Flange from rank 4 barb? over getting LV15 Gungho/LV15 Concentrate and Lv5 Montano (stun attack) with my swordsman x3-> rodelero idea.

and I still don’t know how needed active attack skills would be, because if I focus on all self buffs for 4 ranks until corsair, I’d also me getting corsair self buffs (flag, dual wield self buff) and then the chain skills, which seem to be a utility. so I’m not sure if I need to be investing in attack skills on my way to corsair instead of just total self buffs.

#12

Well Barbarian wouldn’t be a useless rank because of the buffs it gives as well as an attack skill of your choice which uses all of your skill points and allows you to use them at later levels instead of Rodelero which DOES require a shield in order to use the 3 skills besides montano.

This however is just my opinion on the matter of useless skills for dual wielding. If having a stun attack and the extra points in the swordsman buffs are worth it to you however, then go for it.

Truthfully, you CAN change weapons by pressing a button so it is possible to use the Rodelero skills and change back to dual wielding a sword and dagger but I like to simplify things and only have one weapon set :wink:

IMO Swordsman focus a lot on buffs and put some but not all points into attack skills because their auto attacks can hit multiple targets as long as they are on one square doing massive damage by just swinging away. Clerics are the same but generally don’t have buffs as good as swordsman.

#13

would bash or thrust be better? or a bit of both? I think youre right and I’ll go barb before corsair.

#14

I’m not sure about the attributes but when you go to the your class master and buy attributes to use. Choose the skills based on those attributes. Like Umbo Blow for example has a stun as an attribute… but I haven’t looked at the attributes in a while so take my words with a grain of salt. If Thrust or Bash have any attributes that you like, take the skill.

#15

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/6vqzoh4ab1/ Just a little something I quickly whipped up.

#16

from what i’ve seem, bash is really good, if you get only one offensive skill on swordsman, bash is the way to go.

#17

I read elsewhere on here that sword/dagger don’t stab ,so savagery wouldn’t be useful for it? or was that wrong?

#18

P.S., why not much love for Jolly Roger?

what’s the difference in utility between Iron Hook and Keel Hauling? oh Keel Hauling is a skill after Iron Hook lands. can I move towards something I’ve grabbed with Iron Hook and start slashing them?

does Iron Hook even impair the enemy in any way unless you start hauling?

I watched one video of a Corsair grinding and he uses Savagery, so maybe it does work with Sword & dagger? He also grabbed “Restrain” buff from the Swordsman tree - what exactly does adding a faint % do? Not sure what that means.

#19

Well Barbian have been highly nerfed, so highlander

#20

If you’re planning to do some PVP, then you NEED attack skills. Attack skills provide burst damage, especially with high rank classes, and that’s what kills in PVP. If you plan to kill using only buffs and auto attacks in PVP then forget it, wizards and archers will eat you for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Also if you’re only taking Barbarian circle 1 then don’t bother too. Barbarian needs at least circle 2 to be of any use