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Consider Monk/Diev rank placement change

I dislike what i call the abomination build which is currently the way of life for clerics(Not all but way too many of them it’s too free). The Cleric c2 - Diev c3 - Oracle/Miko - PD/Kabbalist - Inquisitor/PD2
This thing is not ok. No one should be able to just build multiple immunities, heal and get damage also. I don’t understand why you’ve aloud this to even be possible, it is not fair. The other class trees don’t even get their own immunities, (Except for missile hole) they are still hoping for a cc removal, but the cleric tree can pick whatever it wants, be immune however it wants, decide if it wants cc removal and then do damage at the end of it too!

I want to suggest moving Monk c1 down to be a choice at rank 3,4 and 5. While Diev c1 to start from rank 5 into 6 and 7 instead. Why? Because it causes a legit issue since players can’t just have everything without losing options as well.
I picked Monk because it’s c3 skill is abysmal in comparison to Ausrine. In my opinion it also has been a weaker class than Diev. Which goes against the higher ranks feeling stronger idea IMC creates classes by. There’s even a mob in the 115 dungeon i believe it was, with a better version of Golden bell shield. (No Monk player is happy by this either IMC).

What do people think about this idea.

i do not agree on monk moving down like that to be fair, because then there is not enough physical cleric ranks to go past that. I would say great idea, but to be fair it should be balanced other way.

for example, make auserine only last 5 -7 seconds in pvp or be a one time per battle effect.

or make it so heal factor dissapears when you get ausirine buff in pvp. or even make all buffs dissapear once you get auserine.

The fact that monk npcs always need help in quest is foreshadowing that monk is one of the worst classes. Man im forced to do their quests in tyla quest line to unlock city wall or maven questline to unlock maven. Too many changes in monk but none of it is worth for a rank 5-7 invesment. Good job imc.

There are only 2 physical cleric classes in the whole tree to begin with (Prior Inquisitor) Paladin and Monk (Probably 3, STR Bokor for zombies does count too). The options Monks normally take won’t change they can simply be a Monk earlier.

The current normally seen Priest/Diev builds can still be taken, Monk won’t clash ranks with Miko/Oracle/PD or Kabbalist anymore. It provides more options for the Monk. If this happened.

the problem is NOT that these builds can pick all of those immunity skills, the problem are the immunity sklils… Such skills in such a manner should never exist in a game, as it will cause all kinds of balance problems. Future content MUST be balance with those skills in mind, meaning they will (and are) a necessity to clear and progress through content. Let alone the pvp.

The circles are not the problem. The skills have to be changed to a scaling damage reduction %, instead of granting total immunity.

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