yea its a good point.
I’ve used it on icbt2, it was good to use with pain barrier on.
Imo, they need to buff a bit that att of “continuos hit”… looks like its just a double hit with lower damage and the rate is too low to be something visible
Yeah, it would be nice if it was 50% chance or something more than just 10%.
The bleeding attribute should also, maybe, be fixed too? It’s a nice attribute and all, but having to stun enemies first for it to happen makes it situational, and I’m a Barbarian 2… It’s nice synergy and a neat little extra for those who didn’t go Swordsman 3 or Highlander, but it’s never going to be a go-to option.
i think 50% its too much 
, maybe 30% ?
They do that way to make class synergy [i guess]
33% for a 1/3 chance?
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from what i see, thrust continous hit is joke.
it simply breaks your thrust to 3 hits with the same damage as 1 hit at the cost increased SP (as far I can see its something like 80% - 10% - 10%)
I have been disabling this attribute ever since.
thrust bleeding - I am a sw3, with 48% restrain proc, never proc a single bleed with thrust. disabled this attribute too. waste of SP
Don’t know why it wouldn’t proc, it should be a guaranteed Bleed chance.
thrust is simply too slow for 1s stun.
if you build sw3 with barb, the bleed might work.
i just spam thrust with restrain, never procced a single bleed up until fencer, then i just throw thrust out of my hotkey.
The bleed attribute from thrust has been bugged since cbt and has never worked.
Wait, what? “spam thrust with restrain” that’s not how the attribute works. The bleeding only affects creatures that are already affected by stun, so you have to stun them first with restrained normal attacks, then use thrust on targets that have become stunned.
It works but pretty much the only real way you’re going to proc it is by either going
Swordsman C2 - Barbarian, and then proccing off Helm CHopper
Or having a Quarrel Shooter stun with Stone Shot.
and restrain apply stun for 1s. restrain apply on every single atk you do, so you can spam thrust and hope it procs the stun, then hope you can do the next thrust fast enough before the stun wears off
ahh sorry.
Yeah, I went Barbarian 2, so I just Helm Chopper or Seism. The times that I have done that combo, it worked every time. Restrains stun time needs a boost but I’m not sure if that would be broken or not…
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Concentrate and Gung Ho with maxed attribute is sweet up until like level 50 (some random low number that I didn’t put too much thought into). After that it’s still OK on certain maps when questing solo. Not too long after that you’ll wonder why some actually useful buffs disappeared before their full duration. Then you proceed to remove them from your skill bar and wonder why you ever put more than 5 points in them. At least that’s what happened to me after going Sword3 with lv15 Concentrate at 1 point in time.
As for Thrust Bleeding I can agree with everyone. It’s just awful right now. I don’t have Barb on that char so it’s impossible to proc the bleeding because for some reason a simple sword poke needs to take twice as long as a normal attack, which by that time the stun has already worn off. Such as shame because my Double Slash is missing out on extra damage that was actually supposed to happen by design.
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I am well aware of how bad concentrate is. Except there is nothing better to put points into at S2. I am suprised you still use double slash at higher levels though, maybe you are a shinobi.
Stated in the other thread that I am. Otherwise I wouldn’t have gone S3. DS by itself is still a very decent skill though. The critical attribute will pretty much guarantee all critical hits if you pump some DEX, it has 3 overheat, and the hitbox is fairly generous compared to all my other skills.
With the scaling buff soon this skill is going to be even more amazing, and may see some usage even in the endgame.
I honestly can’t wait for it! Totally not why I get swordsman c2 but I won’t complain lol.
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HAHAHAHAHA
hey there. tho i’m really hoping they buff gungho or concentrate better than this so their sw 2 builds wont be a waste of space. and party slot. the recent buffs are not enough tho. the formulas just make it look like it scales well. it scales but not good enough.
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