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Community Review the Week of 5/10/2016 - "F2P...is only the beginning": SA Server Issues, World Boss Control, Circle Resets, Optimization, Mob Spawn Rates, Swordsman Woes

An ingame survey system sounds like a fun idea.

Allowing you to reset your current circle, reducing your class level to 1, until after rank 5.

Tell me all the problems that would cause.

do this a few time in a row and you are in big trouble since your char level out leveled your class level super hard (especially in the higher ranks). which leads to broken characters etc etc.
You guys want class reset so people can’t screw up their builds but propose something to completely break your character. And YES, there will be idiots who would do this 10 times in a row. And NO, if you only allow it once people will still be unhappy because they might have made the wrong decision twice.
The only solution is to make people plan their builds (the game needs to stress out much more how important that is) and maybe even give you auto builds like some mobas do.

Fine, then no class level reset. Even though you’re wrong and it wouldn’t break anything, they would just have to grind it back.

In any case you can direct your discussion to the threads I linked.

see, you know i am right (i can read between the lines).

Grinding it back won’t work if you reset too often in a row. your char might have outleveled your class by 30 or more levels already and because of the xp penalty for enemies below your level you could be stuck needing to grind in an area that expect you to have a higher class level then you have.

I am aware that this is an extreme scenario but more then enough people will reach it. just like so many people failed to plan their build before hand. i and 4 of my friends planned our builds together (unique builds, not some public build from tosbase) and every of those 5 chars works like a charm at around lvl 230-240.
it is just that people don’t want to invest time in planning or somehow lack the skill do plan correctly. no reset will help those people they will reset 5 times and more at higher ranks, because there is so much choice and just screw them even harder. Only solution for those is to add recommended builds to the game.

Congratz for this man.

My 2 cents:

  • Balance between classes will be a mess for now and IMHO IMC doesn’t have enough data to deal with it yet;
  • I’m not concern about mob re-spawn rate, mob density is quite more relevant if you see some zones size/mobDensity rate.
    Not only that, some recipes demand so many drops from mobs with low density population that makes it nearly inviable stop and farm for it.
    Ex.: I was trying to farm “varv skin” from varvs in Royal Mausoleum F1, but beside the fact that the drop rate is 0.75%, the varv population AND the respawn rate is ridiculous.

Tagging @STAFF_Max for visibility!

So this guy basically grabbed every top thread, highlighted his opinion, downplayed what he doesn’t like and promoted himself.

Seems right, probably he is a politician or works in a PR job. :joy:

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I also think this is stupid. Especially since Zipso went around as a regular player, posting their opinion, and he/she/it is now capable of shedding that bias and stepping up to represent all of us?

And what parts will you represent–the parts you feel are most important or necessary? What about the bots? What about Telsia/SEA?

I did nothing of the sort, how did I downplay anything? I’m pretty sure accurately represented the popular issues, and save the swordsman class balance and circle reset issues the other issues aren’t really a debate, more so technical problems.

Get your agenda out of this thread! I deal with facts only!

sometimes i dont know if you are a troll or really that deluded…

you are nothing but on a personal agenda. on every post you ever do.

first, you select yourself as community representative. which is a prime example of being on a personal agenda.

second, you don’t just sum up the discussions, but you are biased towards the topics you sum up. you are clearly for circle reset as you have shown in our discussion, while the community is split. someone representing the community should never take sides in those situations.

imo you actually should get banned for trying to impersonate an administrative position, which a community representative is to a degree, while just trying to push your personal agenda.

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So you are a Swordman froms SA server who messed up his build…
Reading your post i see it like this.
This summing up is too biased like the post above me said.
I won’t enumerate everything that’s wrong about your post, it would take too long, let’s leave it at : don’t post any more of these “community review” please.

if this fictional person you speak of tried EVERY combination of class to its maximum potential… I’m sorry dude but that would take more than a week and to be honest he would have found the build he loves by then why quit… I guess he would quit according to your opinion yet that decision is a mystery nothing is set in stone.

oh god, guild wars 2? Yikes.

You make it sound as if swordsman is only bad if you mess the build.
Let me tell you, some swordman classes have been buffed 2 times already, and thats on top of the incredible nerf that swordsmans got in itos, nerfing two of the best dps skills available in the whole class.

Yea, i guess you’ll have to be an old fan of the series to like that game, im out already.

Got back to BnS tho

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Got promoted to detective of the dark arts

still wondering how the ■■■■ am i able to run BnS in 30~45 fps on high populated areas and not ToS

No I’m from a country not even close to Brazil on the map, I’m currently playing cleric, and I have no issue with my current build that I feel I need to fix!

Thanks for asking though!

Im against class reset at all cost otherwise i will just going back to gw2 where everyone easily changed their thus no such thing as uniqeness

If i know this game gonna have class reset then im sure for every swordie out there peltesta c1 will be the requiement in order to progressing easier since you can pretty much changing class when you hit the cap why care?

you gave a bunch of kids candy with this thread.

i followed everything you said till “swordman woes”… i quit reading your thread after that because it yelled I played a swordsman and i seen its shortcomings!. wish you wouldnt have done that… if you do 1 major class problems, do 1 for each class, otherwise i cant take what you say as worthwhile because every starting class has its problems… i acknowledge that… i expect other players to acknowledge the totality instead of 1/4th the radius, ESPECIALLY since this is suppose to be a community review… what happened you get sick of typing? you didnt do your due diligence. gtfo

I guarantee you (100%) that OP will not become an ‘‘official TOS community representative’’ pretty funny resume though.