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Cloth is useless?

Im a 140 Sorc1 with 50 con (9k of life) with cloth level 120 and Im dying with only 1 hit of any boss

LOL?

Is not that Cloth is useless, is that your Con is way too low. This games is not like other ones where Mages can go without Con. I will say you will need at least 100 Con in this game and being Sorc, I will add even more Con.

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You’re squishy and you’re dying because you’re a mage with practically no Con?

Yeah, sounds about right. Has nothing to do with your armor. Honestly you should get double that amount. But it doesn’t change the fact that you’re still squishy. It just doesn’t make you glass at the end of the day.

9k? What are you, a casual?

Jokes aside, what boss are you exactly talking about? Are the ones from mercenary post included? If so, try swapping your top to leather/plate depending on the boss to receive half damage.

Mercenary Mission

20characters

Okay.

I dont recall correctly what attack type are Mole and Golem, but I’m certain Poata is strike-based, try using a leather top vs it.

Your character takes 10% extra damage for each level the monster is above you, don’t forget that one.

Pro-tip: You can jump-avoid all attacks, try to jump 0.5~1 second before the attack lands.

If you’re entering with members that are 10+ levels above you, bosses will most likely OHKO you, even if you have a lot of CON and Defense.

Mercenary Missions scale with the highest level member of the party.

Before SA was moved I’d say it was doable. It’s not anymore RIP 200+ ms. The timing is just too tight to be a safe way to dodge most of the attacks.

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It is possible to read all attacks coming from bosses on Siauliai. I normally Jump-tank with my swordie at 250~300ms :stuck_out_tongue:

Cloth pants and boots are for the most part useless unless they have some special stats you are looking for. Cloth gloves add a bit of magic amplification for a slight damage boost.

As for the Cloth top / armor, that one will decide the bonus/malus monster receive when attacking you and highly depends on the area you are currently leveling in. I personally try to have all 3 armor types with me to adjust.

While plate armor grants the highest physical defense out of the 3 armor types its also the one thats weak against strike against, basically melee monsters without weapons for the most part (not in every case). For example in Evac you are better of using a Leather armor while for Storage Plate is the better choice.
Archer monster count as piercing damage afaik and thats when cloth armor comes in handy but should be avoided against any slash type enemies (those with weapons usually).
In Storage that armor choice decides if a Blue Nuo will hit my archer for 2-3k, 5-7k or even up to 10k.

As I said and you didn’t comprehend properly:

And you didn’t comprehend what I said. It is not, you only require practice.

No, I did understand. I said it’s not safe. SHOULD I FCKING DRAW?

It’s not safe because you didn’t practice enough. I can’t count the amount of times I had to have a cleric babysitting everytime I failed dodging the bosses attack.

You don’t need to be so hostile btw.

Not being hostile, just making a point.

Mate. Our ping fluctuates from 200ms to up to 600ms in a split second. If you are taking ONE hit to die, will you risk jumping over just so a quick latency fluctuation kills you?

Think about what you’re saying for a second.

Well traditionally caster gear was meant to protect against magic attacks where magic attacks are the ones that you can’t always avoid while physical attacks could be avoided with skill.

Judging by the fact cloth armor gives additional magic defense and SP, it would deceive a player into thinking that they are what casters SHOULD be using based off of experience with other roleplaying games.

The problem is likely unavoidable attacks being physical in nature instead of magical forcing casters to build like tanks which is arguably confusing for people because that goes against the traditional norm for pure-bred casters in majority of RPGs.

I would argue that attacks that would OHKO or just do heavy damage to a caster who is specializing in caster gear that gives magic defense should be AVOIDABLE. I mean imagine any player building their caster as a DPS-focused build with cloth armor for magic defense + SP thinking they are doing the right thing only to find out they need to build like tanks half way through the game, they probably like “u srs? OMFG”.

But I digress. No point blaming the game design or the legion of white knights will march along to smite me with their jousts of justice. So, to use the words of the white knights, “It’s your fault for not researching beforehand. Reroll your char and do it right noob!”

:frowning:

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It’s not my fault if you didn’t fill this thread if with enough information, how was I supposed to know that you have an unstable ping that ranges by 400ms? In your case you should just avoid getting in contact with the bosses.

Shrugs

Anyway.

@OP try using the armor trinity in your favor to reduce the boss damage.

Suuuuuure.

Cause this game has ZERO latency fluctuations right?
C’mon dude, stop making a martyr out of yourself please. You jumped to conclusions super fast like everyone is playing within your parameters there. “Cause if you don’t dodge you suck, you need practice”.

It’s not in my case btw. lol
Our entire SA server is just not working as intended.
PLEASE do some research before throwing stones it’s all I ask.

People are complaining in this forum for ages now about SA stability issues and you are telling me you didn’t know. K, it’s my fault you are uninformed. I’m so sorry.

Please go and check end game equipment and tell me again how Cloth is usless for Mages while Plate is better. Those who think Plate is betetr are those who are in tne beggining of the game (where plate is actually better) or those who are badly builded with their stats.

Please, quote wherever I said ‘if you don’t dodge, you suck’. You are the one jumping into conclusions…Unless by saying ‘you need to practice’ you consider it as a way to be ridiculed…don’t be so sensitive.

I have friends that play on SA with the ms capped at 250, so not everyone has the issue.

You should consider actually read a comment before trying to accuse someone for giving wrong information. Thanks.