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[CLERIC] Full SPR Support Build

Oh you’re that guy who complained about Mass Heal being unreliable? Suddenly I don’t feel like debating with you anymore lol.

Yea fine forget INT then. All I can say is that when I wasn’t on my Cleric I felt very unsafe with a healer who wasn’t breaking 1000 per tile.

My experience as a pure SPR Cleric / C2 Priest and another character from start with 2SPR:1CON up to Cleric / C2 Priest / C1 Krivis / C3 Priest:

  1. Aspersion damage is useless, because it does not include MAttk. I was doing 150 damages when my auto attack was doing 200 damages
  2. I take 1 skill point for Cure and 4 skill points for Deported Zone, and Deported Zone last for the cooldown
  3. Monstrance with level 1 is enough, but put 2 skill points in Resurrection for the attribute
  4. Mass Heal does not give much with SPR, it only gives another 150 HP when you have 600 HP, you need to have full Mass Heal. I give the Monstrance C1 Priest skill points to C2 for this reason (I did not reset, simply didn’t spend them)
  5. Stone Skin with 1 skill point is more than enough based on the existing description. It blocks even I was duel with Arde, but it does not block magic.
  6. Exorcise does 0 (yes, zero) damage for me, perhaps I have no investment on INT
  7. Level 1 Zalciai is very enough
  8. Zaibas does great even with no investment on INT, gives you an option against high physical defense enemies that are weak against magic. I maxed it.
  9. Aukuras is only good for the fire resistance. Level 4 maybe enough to keep it last over cooldown

Full SPR is not variable, and since it has no range, it is difficult to solo quest boss. Afterward, I started all over with 2SPR:1CON, and it works better. Consider Krivis higher for Daino, and I am considering Bokor over Pardoner for Hexing and Effigy, as you can kite if you have no CON.

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Actually.
Def debuff is greatly appreicated by some classes.

Archers for example have a lot multi hit skills.

Multi Shot. 32 hits per 24 seconds roughly.
Barrage 10 hits per 20 seconds.
Barbed Arrow. Depends on armor type. 0~3 hits per 4 seconds.
Magic Arrow. 25 hit sper 11 seconds. (level 10 … i had level 5only, still 15 hits per 10 seconds.)

I easily do that many hit’s in that timeframe xD. And more. With a fletcher build of mine.
120 hits the minute. Easy pie.

Shot Magic arrow, use barrage up clos eif possible. Bang in multishot. Shot magic arrow again. In down time of skills hit with barbed arrow, if enemy isnt ghost armor.

xD

I had a full spr krivis suppor tme once … i wanted to enslave him.

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Exorcise scales purely on int.
1 dps dot per int … which is laughable.

It’s like aoe bleeding …

I think you can stop with Cleric C2.
I was making a SPR Cleric for the reason to excel in Buff/Debuff, not Heal. I take all the SPR scale skills for endgame, and I believe this is what the OP is looking for.

I believe OP is not looking to be a Full Healer, he wants Full Support.

This works very well with my party.
A full DEX Archer and Swordsman. Many Swordsman are DEX as well, as they need no more CON for HP.

The rotation for my SPR Full Support Priest is, Deported Zone (lower defense), Monstrance (increase Crit), Zalciai (decrease Crit for 2 seconds and increase Crit). However, you can see you need 3 different classes to offer this rotation, and you need to be at melee range. It is a great help with a Linker though.

I do think a Debuff cleric is good. But going full SPR is just overkill. With the current build from OP, its just not as good, especially without Bokor. Personally, I’d never take a Full SPR priest into my party. Its not as good as a Paladin survivability-wise and also not as good as a Wizard support damage-wise. Supports also need to do damage, and full spr is just… Ew damage-wise. Not to say that the full time healer in my party would do the Full Spr priest job just as well, you don’t need a really high amount of SPR for Zalcai to contribute well enough with Crits, while D.Zone and Monstrance -Def is just neglectible and unreliable.

Some archer builds do have amazing attack/sec but, you didnt count the animation time or charge time of those skills xD with Animation time being incredibly slow in ToS, I dont think you’d reach that much of a high hit/sec. Especially when you consider thst you’d have ~300INT with the same amount of points for 200SPR, probably more. Anyways, going Full SPR is too overkill in so many lvls, you’d sacrifice too much dps for not as much of a reward, for the OP build, its not even that much worth it since he wouldnt fit in parties too well. Especially if you have 2 Wizards in the same party.

Perhaps at low level, a heavily invested on SPR is not effective. But I would like to see how a C3 Priest / Pardoner defensively, as they scale better than a Paladin in endgame. They should able to defend most magical spells with the ability to block half of the physical attacks for the whole party.

Meanwhile, if SPR does not work well for Cleric, that means the game is not capable of making dynamic classes (no selling point, meaningless for 80 classes to choose from). They definitely need to re-do the stats. Both DEX and SPR have diminish returns (there is lack of effectiveness at low stats, and it has a cap for high stats).

Im trying out a spr build priest as well with 2:1 spr:con and 40 dex for accuracy. My class choices are similar to yours, however our skill choices are quite different. After playing with the new heal i can say that mass heal at level 5 is pretty underwhelming now since it dropped to 18%. I’m hoping level 10 will give it that nice boost since we lack int to add to the heal tiles. I still have a long way to go before i can form a proper opinion of the build though. :slight_smile:

I did count in the charge time ^^.
These are rather fast.

It’s not a blunt 1 sec charge per skill level.
Some are even instantcast, wher eanimation takes either 0,25 seconds or 1 second.

Even if i misjudge the time needed, it still can dish out solo way more hits then any amount of int could make that solo cleric do more dps.

True, it wont help wizz much. As it doesnt decrease mdef.
But youre going to party more with phyiscal attackers, when you build that way.
WIzz needs a Link Suporter. Wiz3>Link2>thrauma3 would be the best for them, but heck i wont make that xD.

Barbed Arrow takes 1,5 seconds roughly.
Magic Arrow 1~3 seconds, given how fast you aim.
Multishot is at about 3~5 seconds for level 15, earlyer levels roll in faster.
Barrage is about 2 seconds.

I counted in these roughly to the nubmers i presented xD. Latency will play a big role …

But yeah. I can easily do 5 magic arrows in 60 seconds. Which is alone 125 attacks xD.
Just as a note … a boss of the same level wont survive that long sadly … If it’s flying type i cant hit it with magic arrow.
But Multishot is mostly enough to take down a boss swiftly, while buffed.

Are you sure Matk doesn’t affect it? Because I think it does…but I don’t think it would worth to use it constantly anyway as a damaging skill…

Actually, not sure, since I reset it after 3 times of use. What I remember is I did less damage than my auto attack, and it seems to be around the SPR number. But regardless, I would not rely this as an offensive attack, as it is worse than my auto attack.

You probably don’t need DEX, and you will never catch up for their dodge, unless you want some CRIT. If you cannot hit them, you can probably use magic (Zaibas - capable of killing them even without INT at level 120), since they will be low in HP and magic defense.

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Guys, hello!
How do you think.
Is that build playable and might be needed in parties?
Cleric3 Priest3 - and probably Plague Doctor.
Con/Int/Spr like 1/2/1

Skills may be redone - so i’m not posting them here now.

You’ll be doing a lot better as a Chaplain in rank 5 instead of a Pardoner.