Looking for a good build that would benefit me in the long run and dealing good dps and support as well.
Going into INT:CON
Cle > Kriv > C2 > Paladin > Diev2 > PD
(Was thinking to put in paladin for it support buffs and Diev2 for more support and also the owl and zaibas)
Any suggestions?? Would appreciate your feedback. Thanks…
I’m more of a melee Cleric (Monk) player. But I can say circle 1 Paladin is pretty much universally considered terrible. It has one decent move (element resistance buff).
The others are sub-par. Basically I think the only time you can legitimately pick up Paladin is going 2/3 circle. So my feedback would be ditch Paladin from the build an invest in something more beneficial.
I see what you mean i was just looking at paladin because of its restoration buff and resist elements for support… What would be a good alternative to replace paladin?
Like I said, I’m not good on the magic based Cleric front. I just know first hand how ■■■■ circle 1 Paladin is. Having ruined my Monk build by picking it in CBT.
I don’t want to give you bad advice so hopefully someone else could answer that. I can say the restoration buff wasn’t nearly as good as I thought it was.
It’s not a buff in a traditional sense. Your character acts as a “pylon” an anyone close to you receives the benefits. If they step more than a few meters away the benefits disappear.
An trust me most of the time they’re more than a few meters away. Even then the rate at which HP/SP restores naturally isn’t great.
I would suggest you to move Diev a circle or two back, then for r6 for magic damage you can go Druid.
You can also do Krivis2 but if you want to replace Paladin, the smallest change to your build would be
Cleric > Krivis > Diev > Diev2 > Cleric2 > Druid > PD
or
Cleric > Krivis > Krivis2 > Diev > Diev2 > Cleric2 > PD
Also I have not much experience with magic builds especially using all the lower circles so… I’m a horrible advisor for magic builds just so you know
(From what I see, usually Cleric2 is taken on rank 2 except if there’s Krivis then Cleric2 kept getting pushed farther)
Diev is kind of physical, no? aside from the statues being somewhat (or a lot) useful, is it worth skipping priest?
Clr > Pr > Kriv > Kriv 2 > ???
or does a dip of priest not really contribute to a caster cleric?
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Diev is kind of physical, no? aside from the statues being somewhat (or a lot) useful, is it worth skipping priest?
Clr > Pr > Kriv > Kriv 2 > ???
or does a dip of priest not really contribute to a caster cleric?
[/quote]Short answer: It’s not worth skipping the rest for Priest. Priest and Paladin are two of the worst 1-circle investments. Only get them if you’re desperate for the costume, otherwise go none or Priest2/3 or Pally3.
Long answer:
First, a lot of players are stuck in a RO style where they think a Cleric must be able to resurrect. Yet they never are able to resurrect in battle, or even if they resurrect, most likely it’s not in a safe place and the guy will die again. Then they say they can do blessing. But they never spend money on the attribute (~200k) so you end up with Clerics wasting 1 circle for Priest who have low Blessing and unusable Resurrection.
In solo play, Priest’s Blessing won’t be able to beat the advantages for Krivis2 or Druid for magic. Maybe can add more damage but less versatile.
In party play, again, you wasted 1 circle for either subpar Blessing because you never invested on the attribute, and resurrect that you’ll almost never use mid-battle. And then you get 1 or 2 circle priests who don’t invest in blessing and overriding other proper Priests’ blessing.
Basically, on solo mode, choose the circles that will give you high survivability by either keeping YOU alive or killing the enemy before they kill you.
On party mode, to be able to do a bit of this and that but not able to support properly is just wasting a slot in your party. If there’s no other Cleric in the party, then you better do your best at what you’re good at, not basic weak skills in everything. If there’s another Cleric, most likely they’ll have better skills than you because they’re more focused.
Thanks you very much for your suggestion I feel like going off your second suggestion of Cleric > Krivis > Krivis2 > Diev > Diev2 > Cleric2 > PD
Would druid be more useful for a more balanced dps and support or would going Kriv 2 or Diev 3 be enough instead of druid??
oooh! polite and educational! love it 
now tell me: "why Diev? "
I’m just starting a Diev so be warned that I can’t speak from personal experience.
With Diev, you have to get used to a new playstyle - this one reminds me of Engineer in Guild Wars 2. Diev is one of the high utility r3 cleric class, but the buffs are unconventional so the benefits may not be as obvious in solo or earlier on. They’re also a decent DPS class with their Carve attacks so you can use it as secondary DPS to any later classes.
The key point of Diev is bringing something new to the party - in particular skill cooldown reduction, followed by silence. This can turn over a tight situation significantly. However, it’s area based (immovable statue where bosses and parties can easily run away from) and most parties don’t know how to play with Diev (who cares about buffs, we all DPS! etc).
Also @aarondadivas I noticed that you put Diev 3 as one of the options. Simply, Diev3 will be a different playstyle just because you’ll sacrifice other class options. Diev3 will shine if partied with a party who knows how to play with Dievs. Diev3 is actually both DPS and utility if you max the Carve Attack/Carve Owl, so you end up using Diev skills quite a lot as a Diev3. Though be warned of cooldowns - statues have long cooldowns so you have to manage them well.
I can give more feedback once I actually get to at least Diev2, but to sum it up really, it’s a high utility class that’s less conventional. I think someone drew a parallel to Bard/Dancer. (first we have paladin and now we have bard/dancer mixed into the cleric class @_@ )
There’re a lot of Diev threads recently in the last week so you may use the search function to take a peek into some builds, but if one wants to do decent support x dps but don’t want to invest too much into Priest, don’t want to go Krivis for magic dps, and want to take Cleric2, Diev is pretty much the next step.
@aarondadivas Again I suck at giving magic DPS build advice but Kriv2 and Druid brings different stuff to the table. The reason one goes Druid1+PD is due to support/dps mix. Druid1 DPS relies heavily on Chortasmata x Carnivory while supporting with Telepath, and Krivis2 is for increasing DPS from higher level of Zaibas, not sure about the other skills.
The early ranks is mainly to help you level, later they’ll be more for support damage/skills and you focus more on the later ranks.
Reminder that most Cleric classes have skills for both support and DPS. Monk and Oracle are some of the exceptions where Monk skills are mostly DPS and Oracle are mostly support-side. So always think - how will the skills help me grind? And how will the skills help my party? If you don’t like the way they work, don’t take them because you’ll end up being too lazy to use them.
Thank you very much for your reply ill be sure to look around and play around with the classes to find which is more fun to use!