Thanks for the response.
If I get Cryomancer 3 and use an over-upgraded Ice Rod, and I maxed the levels of Ice Bolt/Ice Pike/etc, do you think Ice Rod’s effect would, for example, make my Ice Bolt into level 16?
Thinking of this build: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/gbhxw5jt5h/
If you have a dagger in your off hand you can use it for a melee attack.
Hell, tehmimichan, great thread you have there, thx for it.
What are your thoughts on going cryo c3 for pvp? What other classes you’d prefer to add to it? May be cryoX3-psy-necro?
Dear tehmimichan
my build is going for wiz > pyro1 > pyro2 > pyro3 > sorc > alchemist
mostly play with my friend for boss raid / dungeon.
for now i’m not sure after i end up being pyro3 there’s a gap that i feel like what i can choose to be?
what do u think about going for sorcerer ?
what i’m thinking about this cycle is my class should have some facilitate skill / support skill
(etc run faster, regen sp, have some tanky summon)
Is sorcerer fit me well ?
i have no doubt about alchemist coz that’s my goal : )
I’m thinking of maxing out Enchant Fire because of the Arde Dagger bonus, what do you think? my normal hit ranges 400~450, when I activate EF, I get around ~180 bonus fire damage per hit. That’s EF sitting at level 1. So what are your thoughts? Since I really don’t like the damage of other Pyromancer skills rather than Fireball and Flameground. I’m Pyro C2 > Linker btw (soon Elementalist) Thanks mimichan.
4w4
hmm not sure about necro and how good the decay debuff is
(iam still a good 6 level class away for necro)
for the current class I know, maybe go for psy2 for
that magnetic force which can stun them
neo_quiz
well the thing about tanky summon is the monster would
always go for you so dont always think you can hide
behind your summon but for buffs, sorc are good, that
summon servant buff last for 4 mins, i just also
got a fire lord card which would pair up nicely with pyro3
i can put a video of it if you want
martin
yeah go ahead, i was thinking the same thing as well, i
dont use firewall as much so I will reroute all my
skills to enchant fire
Hi mage master, I just tested going full con on my cryo cause I am 4 class levels away from Tauma. I realised that not only do auto attacks scale on int but my ice wall projects do too! Now I am not sure if I should go full con thauma or not o-o. Should I consider elementalist? Or stick with Thauma?
Edit: To elaborate. Compared to pyromancer cryomancer doesn’t have any damage spells that are consistent so I am conflicted whether I should go thauma and still do no damage or go elementalist and have some damage? May be elementalist first and thauma later?
Hello!
Atm i’m lvl 75 Wiz>Pyro>Linker aiming for a Summoner type of mage.
My Question: Which classe should i pick at rank 4? Thaum for buffs ( don’t know if i can buff my Demon), Pyro 2 or Elem for dmg…
And which class should i pick for rank 6, Sorc C2 or Necro? The +5 points on Summon and Salamion will be better than Skeletons, Shaggots and Corpse Towers?
Hey @tehmimichan I’m going to use Wiz>Pyr>Pyr>Ele>Ele>Ele, what skills should I use? And should I use 1:2:1 CON INT SPR ?
Thanks .
Does Hail and Stone Curse’s cast time increases each level put into it? or does it stay the same all throughout? Thanks 
What is the success rate of upgrading ludas staff…I checked on website it says 88%, but i tried 2 times yesterday and both failed…is it just me having really bad luck or its actually lower than 88%…
Which of these paths do you think is better?
Wiz > Pyro > Linker > Pyro > Pyro > Linker
Wiz > Pyro > Linker > Wiz > Wiz > Pyro
If neither is better or worse, what are the definite benefits of each?
Hey not sure if you’re still answering questions but, do you think firewall is worth it to get to level 15 on pyro c3? Or I guess there better options to max it 15 like fireball and flame ground right?
What’s the natural progression if I go wiz>pyro C3? Should I go elementalist even though I don’t have quick cast or surespell? Should I grab a rank of linker after pyro c2? (I feel like I’m mobbing fine and that 5 points in mob links wouldn’t help that much). Thanks.
oz
if you already went full con then go with tau as you can transpose all
that con to a sweet INT, so you can switch between attack and def mode
Elementalist is bad if you dont have pyro2 or not going ele2
rafael
I cant find any tau on server yet so i can test it on summons so
hold that for now. As for necro, it might be good to pair necro with
sorc so while you are drain of sp, you use the corpse and vice versa
bruno
Fireball, Flame Ground, Fire Pillar, Prominence, Meteor, Frost Cloud
If you can dodge well and master the skill casting delays, you may want
to go for a glass cannon build of 3:1 int spr to squeeze all the power
you can get
jormungandr
I havent notice the difference in cast time since both have
fairly long ones anyway
sylviaa
rng gonna be rng, I failed a 99% upgrade in another game 3 times
in a row so yeah
stormquake
Neither, both have bad synergy
First one is good but you dont need linker 2, hell breath not worth it
due to sp cost
second one might be good but ele2 would take more advantage of quickcast
charlie
on paper firewall 15 is good but in actually its decent but with
so many tiles, it would be a pain to cast
if you are mobbing file then the natural progression is pyro3 to ele2
Which server are you on Tehmimi? Heeding your advice I will be going Thauma in 2 more class levels :x I can help you test the summon thing if you are on gajiba.
is this build still valid? [Class] Official Magician Discussion (ask anything)
if not, Im at rank4, Wiz3 and Link1, so ill go for Ele, any build to recommend?
Thanks for replying man! The amount of work you’ve done for this community is amazing. BTW, which build path do you think it’s stronger? wiz>pyro c3> ele c2. OR wiz>pyro c2> ele c3.
I’ve heard that Freezing Sphere and Frost Clouds are super amazing, along with 15 points into Hail and Prominence also. Do you think this path would beat out the pyro c3 15 points of fireball/flame ground/10 points fire pillar? In terms of mobbing and boss killing.
Hello, is “Rain” and “freezing Spear” worth taking?
Also, I noticed Rain gives 35% bonus dmg to lightning. Is it good to combine with electrocute and freezing hail??
oz
i appriciate the help but im on laima 
leo
yeah go with ele2, i think you put the wrong link haha
charlie
those two are debatable but lets look at both angle
Pyro2
Access to Firepillar (long cooldown)
Improve Fireball/Flame Ground hits and duration
Ele3
Freezing Sphere and Frost Cloud, powerful but long cd
Max meteor
So in short you are looking at DoT vs Burst damage, if you
want consistent damage throughout then go with pyro3 but
if you prefer blasting enemies every 30 sec or so then go with
ele3
peonage
not sure about rain but freezing spear is good, rain also gives
if i recall correctly, extra damage to fire weak enemy so prominence
and meteor will be useful as well
Hate to be a bother
But this is my Alch build ‘3’; I don’t know if there is anything I could do better, or if other classes would work better…
But, I want to be useful both alone and in parties/dungeons, so I felt this would work well.