Thoughts on Sorcerer? I can’t find any data of the Summon power… worth? How much SPR and INT to a Sorc C2?
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The summon hits hard but you have to perma pot because of the SP drain.
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jonathan
You can decide for yourself, the attributes are keep and are
toggle based so you can turn it on or off depending on your
preference
vel
Go Pyro2 then Ele2, Ele skills are on a long cooldown
and high casting time so its good to have a back up
pyro skills just in case things go south
get a bit of con as pyro skills are mostly close range
again depends on your preference, I turn them on when
i know one volley of fireball leaves the enemy with a
sliver of health.
tk
go with the mix of thau and chrono so you can be
versatile
regarding buffing summon, i lost contact with the only
chrono i seen so far but he said it does work on pet so
I would assume it should work the same with summons
if chrono finding is hard, should be harder to find thau
dm
cryo-Ele2 freezing hail
cryo2-ele1 slow splash
linker->ele linked electrecute
wiz->linker linked earthquake
cryo->psy ice wall pressure
cryo->ele>linker super boosted frozen linked electrecute
ale
if you having a hard time leveling up then you are doing
something wrong, I never had to grind up until 120, check your
quest for anything you missed, elementalist wont magically
solve your problem as it has long cast time and long cd
nero
no idea about tennet but your linker pyro rotation shoudl be
link->hangman>flame ground>fireball this should kill almost
all mobs
ahoru
would you mind to elaborate more on sorc’s skills
and prefered summons? else you just using my thread for shameless self promotion
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Don’t underestimate CON. If you didn’t put any points on it yet, do it. With roughly 5 points you’ll most likely double your max HP.
Wizards are great DPSers… as long as they’re alive. If you try to duel any archer, you’ll understand why CON is important.
SPR is pretty good to, since it gives MDef.
Most people suggest going CON INT SPR 1:4:2, that is, SPR should be half of INT, and CON half of SPR. But for PvP, I think going 1:2:1 is better overall.
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Oh, finally a fellow Sorcerer to share knoweldge… :))
Do you think Sorc>Necro is better than Sorc>Sorc? I mean, yeah, skeletons are really powerful but the +5 points in Summoning makes your Demon shines even more… And thanks, i’m following your channel now!
Thanks for the answers.
Now I have more questions about Sorcerer’s summons 
Do they count as party members for buffs?
Are the summons’ stats generated when you summon them? Or does it refresh all the time with your stats?
What I mean is, if I have high int, summon, then use transpose converting my INT into CON, will it’s attack reduce?
Also, the Reincarnate skill from Chrono’s tree is single target, right?
I’m thinking about getting Thaum at rank 4, but not sure if I get Thaum C2 or Chrono on rank 5, given the Swell Right Arm and Reversi are very useful in a party.
There is a bit of tidbit about Sorcerer:
Each summoned cards as different attack properties (some attacks in a straight line, others AoE)
You can ride them with a skill which changes your UI to solely use the summoned skills. Some cards has more attacks than others (its the skills they use as a boss)
They drain your SP when summoned and even faster when you rode them
Riding your summon will make your movement speed faster than a running swordsman
Even when riding, you still take damage instead of your summon
Summon salminion takes no mp up cost and last the same time as your cooldown enabling you to keep him summoned indefinitely
Summon servant has a chance to give you 4 buffs, AoE ratio, HP regen, SP regen (forgot the other one)
Summoner is a really lack luster class, AI is stupid, drains so much sp on an already sp starved class, monster would always go for you instead of your summon,
Hi there, tehmimichan
I’m level 62 R2 Pyro and R3 Linker, was aiming for Pyro, Sorcerer and Necromancer. But turns out I didn’t really like their skills, so I decided to turn my Wizard in a support type mage.
What do you u recommend? C2 Linker is worth? Or should I aim for Thaumaturge and Chronomancer? Is Alchemist any useful as a support (or is just a gold maker)?
Sorry for a lot of questions, I’m kinda lost of what kinda support Wizard Class is worth going for. Thanks in advance
This build is worth it for a sorcerer pvp?
Hi tehmimichan, thanks for this good thread 
I’m planning on getting sorc but I know it will take so long and im excited so I’ll just ask here 
1.) Does riding and unriding taking time? I mean how long is the animation to ride and unride?
2.) Then…about salamion and the summoned card,any opinion on who’s better for attacking and tanking,and can they really tank? And also…do they both have hp or only summon has?
3.) Then… have you tried the familiars? Im pretty interested and if I’m not mistaken, it has a fix in the latest maintenance…so…is it better? I hope it is cause it’s really cool xD
4.) And then… About the cute cat (servant)… How does it apply buffs? Is it random or for example always starting with sp rec then hp rec then aoe ratio,etc.,with some delay time before each buff…or it will give you all the buff at same time?or only one random buff? and what’s the buff duration…
That’s it for the questions xD
And about riding the summon…that’s a pretty good idea that when riding, I think it’s better that the summon tank first and get all damage while the sorc don’t receive damage so there’s more utility for that riding skill (because it’s his duty to protect master until he die right? or maybe I’ve been watching too many anime XD)
Then not about the sorc but about wizard xD
I can’t remember where I read it (here or other thread but I think this will be helpful so thank you to the one who discover xD) that when you use sleep then use magic missile, the missiles bounce so it can give add’l damage. I’m not wizard3 so you guys can try if that’s true and good…
Sorry for my long post, I hope you understand 
Thanks in advance 
What staff do you like for pyro 2 linker? I have a superior square staff and an expecta staff. I just don’t really know how magic amplification works.
erick
linker 2 is is just 3 extra chainable enemy and ability to share buffs
I idea how the share buff works but you better off with thau and chrono.
About alchemist, seeing how squire is useful, should make alchemist
viable as well
daniel
kinda have doubts with sorcerer for pvp now that i played it,
players will always go for you instead of your summon anyway and
if you were to ride it, you lose the ability to use all your skills
if you were to pvp, suggest go with cryo2 so you can lock them longer
xii
- its fast, about 1 sec
- i prefer salaminion becuz it doesnt have sp upkeep
- didnt tried yet, i just turned sorc yesterday
- it will summon, then meows giving you one buff then I think
it has a chance to meow again for the rest of the buff, meow delays
about 5 sec and each buff last for 4mins!
well the think about summon is they dont really take as
the enemy will always go for you and the ai is wonky at times
you still take the damage even when you are rided
about the wizard, yeah its true, its the attribute of magic missile
ouzoo
i tried expecta staff and it sux, i dont know how magic amp works
but if you are a pyro, nothing beats a rod + atra dagger, the
damage is double your superior square staff as the dagger alone
already gives +153 fire property damage (as much as a staff)
then you can add another rod for extra boosted damage
I have a picture of it somewhere in the thread haha
Alrighty!! Thanks again!! 
What mage class/build do you think is more viable for pvp?
I’ve been meaning to test this, but what are your thoughts/xp on cryo-pyro combo? Coz they do bonus dmg against each other…
p.s. I can recall a fireball doing 50% bonus dmg on frozen enemies, but still would like some extrinsic confirmation
CC heavy classes ftw! Cryo and Psycho(at least c2) , just do watch out for Oracles, coz they can seriously fvck up your swag
Does Linker 2’s buff sharing get around the buff limit?
Like, I share with a barb, he casts his 4 buffs and I get like, haste and some cleric stuff on me.
Will we both get all the benefits?
Tell please mage build for maximum dps in 1 target and what class is best in that role?
caior
cry/psy can lock down players for a very long time
wiz3/ele3 can deal huge damage
eli
not sure about that extra fireball damage but
cryo3 pyro2 works in a way (since you can snowball fireballs
and drag them to enemies as well)
dmhamit
need to test, whats the current buff limit anyway?
because my summon servant gives 4 buff and I get another
4 buff from corsair and some additional buff but they
all appear on the buff list all at once
deumore
Wiz3>Ele3
or Pyro3 Ele2
Hey Mage Master, i have some questions for you ^^
First, i am making a build (PyromancerC2+LinkC1) on focus in survive which possesses a large HP and SP, currently 70 int, 65 con, 65 spr … you know if this build would be cool in mid-game or end-game around the lvl 150 ~ 170.
The best weapon to use between 75 ~ 120 its Ludas Staff? after lvl 120 have other better weapon? Maybe the Rod (with fire atk) + the knife (with fire atk) sounds good?
Thanks.