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[Class] Kabbalist Overview

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#329

what do you mean it adds 50 sp recovery? you probably based it on the tosbase definition right?

So FYI that sp recovery means SP Heal, and at max level it heals 50% of your sp, so for example if you have 10k hp, it will heal 5k sp. Know your facts and read the main post before posting incorrect stuff in the forum.

Here is my fact, view it, down vote it I don’t care.

Look the video shows my SP recovery from the beginning 193 after I cast, it changed to 243.

243 -193 = 50.

Now show me your video that recovery 5k SP, please. I really want to know how please Senpai.

I have 10965HP and 2284SP total
Here my second video I drain my sp to 114, you see each time my sp recovery it add only 243. My Restoration: SP Recovery is level 5.

243+114= 357.

#330

Well…i think @rarevalo0528 misunderstood your statement.

I know you are referring to the Attribute for Pally Restoration skill

but wht he meant by [quote=“rarevalo0528, post:328, topic:212234”]
So FYI that sp recovery means SP Heal, and at max level it heals 50% of your sp, so for example if you have 10k hp, it will heal 5k sp. Know your facts and read the main post before posting incorrect stuff in the forum.
[/quote]

he was actually referring to Ein Sof SP recovery Attribute…

#331

Well he sounded so certain that I made a mistake and spreading “incorrect stuff in the forum.”. I am just here to defend myself.

#332

I apologize I see what it is now, but you did not quote a reply to the other person and this is a kabbalist thread so I assumed you were talking about a kabbalist. I apologize for the confusion but would be good to be more clear next time and/or quote replies

#333

@yipgallery & @narulight I’ll address the SP recovery as I’m the player who is running the C2->Diev3->Paladin1->Kabbalist (SP station) build. Since this is a kabbalist thread I’ll try to keep it short :3

Basic things to note:

  • Paladin’s restoration attributed adds +50 SP recovery
  • Dievdirby’s Zemnya statue adds -5 secs to SP recovery time (standard time of SP recovery is 20secs in non-combat and 40secs in combat afaik), and reduces SP consumption based on the amount stated

For paladin 1
In combat for most of the time, you don’t see it recovery really fast or much, in fights that lasts over a few minutes at most it gives 2-3 extra skill usage. At first glance it is really bad just to spec 1 circle for this, but I do beg to differ.

One thing the SP recovery adds to is it affects the rate where players get SP back during campfire. +50 helps in getting SP back fast at campfires. Most players think it is not a really useful ability, think again.

In the video my spr is really low, around low 30s and sp regen is around 100+. SP recovery from restoration adds more to the recovery when I use the trick. It is not a rare sight to see players run out of SP during intense fights, especially during the journey towards 280. Even in saalus I have players fighting for Ein Sof, hence this is one of the reasons why I spec 1 circle into Paladin1, with the ability to set up an SP station (campfire) in midst of fights for players who really need it.

There are other advantages of going Paladin 1 too, but most of them are subtle so many players don’t really notice it.

  • +99 elemental defense from resist elements (attributed)
  • 9% chance of negating elemental effects
  • increased potion effectiveness (under influence of restoration)
  • increased heal tile effectiveness by 50% (under influence of restoration)

And lastly to clear whether Zemyna is good for restoration under campfire. The answer is actually no, it doesn’t affect at all. However being a goddess statue… it does help soothe the ppl :3

Campfire’s 1sec restore overwrites all other timing buffs/debuffs. Hope this helps clear your doubts :3

#334

wow nice, you’re the man!!..so to sum up, resto pally are way more effective to be sp generator than zemya…
another OOT really sorry how smite scaling with int based class? can the damage keep up with high content?

#335

Smite is not really that bad for int based class even at level5. It deals around ~2k damage on mobs not weak to holy. and around 5k+ on monsters weak to holy. Note that this is at 30% attributed. At 100% it will be around 3k+ range.

However it is certainly still lacking in damage for INT based classes as the monsters over 220+ have 90-100+k hp lol. Well we are not str based in the first place. For me the owls do a really great job in the dps department. Carve is in the same ‘department’ as smite though.

Edit:
The damage dealt is based on the weapon +0 Burawa (white non-superior) + Arde Dagger.

Edit2:
Zemnya isn’t a SP restoration tool. It is for SP reduction upon skill usage.

#336

@_Nekorin
Thank you for that explanation. I honestly didn’t want to write it myself. :joy:

@yipgallery @rarevalo0528 @narulight

Sorry if I made a misunderstanding from my replies. I try to do my replies in the context of the build or question presented to me, that sometimes means I go out of context of the main topic.

But yes. Diev 3 > Pally 1 > Kabbalist is a great SP manager build. Ein Sof is on a 60 second CD, but it pays off instantly by being a full SP restore ability. Attributed Restoration along with Zemyna Statue helps out while Ein Sof is on CD and is quite helpful for team compositions that rip through SP (example: 2 Sorcerers, 1 Fletcher/Cannoneer, and a Cryo3,Psycho,Rune Caster, Warlock). It’s a Support build that enables your party to keep using abilities.

#337

Right, has anyone encountered a scenario where your ES sp restore attribute did not fully recovered the recipient’s SP?

#338

Hello there, I wanna a be a dps/supp. Right now I am cleric c2 diev c3

Do you recommend me to follow druid path in order to be a dps?

#339

Druid would get you another AoE Magical damage ability, so if you wanted more dps then Yes. The other options I would recommend you are too support heavy for your build.

#340

What is other option then?

#341

I’m taking the route of Cleric2> Diev1> Pala3.

What should I take for Rank 7?
STR-CON Build (3:1)

I’d like something different from Monk or Bokor, since in my opinion, they’re very underwhelming.

I was thinking Kabbalist because of Revenge Sevenfold. Will that be ok?

Oops, also posted in the wrong topic haha. My bad.

#342

Well the other 2 options are Paladin and Oracle. Both are extremely Defensive options. Since you wanted a DPS/Support Option, Druid is the best one since you already have Diev that has a bit of everything.

All Good. Though if you care, here is my take on Kabbalist for your build.

  • Revenged Sevenfold is a great defensive buff that deals extremely high damage, you will be using this ability on every time it is up.

  • Ein Sof will allow you to fully self-sustain when it is attributed for the SP Restoration.

  • Merkabah is optional for your build, since it is based off of your Magical Attack. It does fairly good damage even without any INT, but once again it’s optional.

  • The Math Skills are kinda in a bad state right now because they can only be used for Reduce Level, but they have potential for future Circles in Kabbalist.

Overall Kabbalist is great to round out a supportive build. It’s not for damage.

#343

Please do not post anything that is not kabbalist related here, follow the thread topic please

#344

It is related to kabbalist to me. Thanks.

#345

Please don’t police my thread.

I appreciate you being on topic, but in the context of @evrencp previous posts they were asking if taking Druid at Rank 6 would be good along with Kabbalist. Also 95% of the questions on this thread are on if Kabbalist is a good choice for this or that build. It isn’t off topic nor out of context for the thread as I have answered at least 4 other people asking the same question.

If you care to assist in the future with replies. Please go back and read the original question that was presented before making a reply.

#346

im still a bit hesitant to take pally/diev for my bokor3-kabalis…since i’ve already have cleric2…
my concern is about sp recorvery…if i take pally/diev, once i get to kabalist, the ein sof is about to make the sp recovery from other class useless…
or should i take priest1? or even cleric 3?

#347

Hmm it really depends on what the overall purpose your build is for. Yes with Ein Sof will make Paladin’s SP recovery mediocre. If you are taking Paladin1 just for SP recovery, you might want to look at the other classes as they will offer better options.

Personally I don’t recommend taking Dievdirby1 as a filler class, it provides nothing much besides Laima and Zemyna statues which both are also used situationally. The only plus point I can think of it being good is the combo/interaction between Laima’s taunting abilities and Merkabah/Math skills.

#348

its true…
so what is your recommendation for bokor3-kabalis build as filler at rank 6?
the purpose is bokor and kabalis as main attck and sp support…the filler should something that useful to party and my main bokor :smiley: