I have no experience with Bokor or the cleric tree at all, but cant you have almost complete invulnerability with Mackangdal lvl 5 + Sterea Trofh? I’ve been thinking of making a Druid C2 and having Bokor C2 on the build because of that seems very tempting…
Like you can get invulnerability with Diev C3 + Druid C2.
But there is a problem. Either one don’t give you cc immunity, you can still be stunned (or other hard CC) and die from Mackangdal after damage (that you need to block with safety zone) :"D
WTB> video of perma-KD with Bwa Kayiman
Tried asking this in the paladin thread but got no replies, could anyone help provide feedback on my bokor paladin build? For stats i was thinking 1:3:1 con int spr. I’m not too concerned that it isn’t meta or top-tier, as long as it has relative success with general pve/pvm (dungeons, missions, etc;) and questing.
In Cleric, Safety Zone 5 >>> Cure 10.
Cure -1
Safety Zone +1
Bokor lets see, it is okay, but I will give some other options.
You have Divine Might if you remember to use it before every Samediveve you can have Samediveve lvl 4.
Samediveve -1 (with Divine Might lvl 5 = 4 sec of self movespeed buff)
Hexing - I prefer it lvl 6, because sometimes I forget to use Divine Might before it :"D
Anyway, you’re going to Paladin right? But why Int-paladin?
Smite = physical
Conviction = physical
Bwa Kayiman = physical
Only Effigy is magic, well other people can help you more about it (I don’t understand much about Paladin). But I think that Str will give you more in this build than Int.
@MizderMeaner Sure!
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Cleric C1
* If you’re running SPR in your build, you should move 1 point from Cure into Deprotected Zone to use on Bosses when in a party.Nvm you did it on C2, although it’d be better to have it from C1.- Cure: -1 points
- Deprotected Zone: +1 points
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Krivis C1
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This is fine.
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Cleric C2
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This is fine. If you followed the advice from Cleric C1, then leave Deprotected Zone at Lv1 and put that point back into Cure.
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Bokor C1 - C2
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If this isn’t being used for PvP purposes, then you can move 4 points out of Mackangdal (Those extra few seconds of invuln aren’t much in PvE, unless you’d hate to use the Zombie skills for whatever reason), and 1 out of Hexing for your Zombie skills. Bwa Kayiman’s usage is shown in the response to Nai-chan below.
- Mackangdal: -4 points
- Hexing: -1 points
- Tet Mamak La: +1 points
- Zombify: +3 points
- Bwa Kayiman: +1 points
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Pardoner
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This is fine.
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Plague Doctor
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This is fine.
It’s viable, yes.
That would be~ Cleric>Krivis>Bokor>Bokor>Cleric>Druid>PD
Either Cleric>Krivis>Bokor>Bokor>Bokor>Cleric>PD
or
Cleric>Krivis>Bokor>Bokor>Cleric>Oracle>PD
Pardoner’s only making you a good amount of Silver if you’re a Priest C3 & Pardoner C2. I’m unsure on how much Silver Oracle’s make on average per hour though, so you’d have to hit up the Oracle Thread for info on that.
And Safety Zone? Yes.
Don’t mind giving feedback, but to start, you should be going STR instead of INT since Paladin’s damage skills are Physical. You more than likely won’t be needing SPR either since you wouldn’t be spamming Effigy all the time. So it’s either a Phys build with Bwa Kayiman + Paladin skills as main skill damage, or the Paladin gets dropped for other classes to continue a Magic build.
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Cleric C1 - C2
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Should move 1 point from Cure into Safety Zone, since Safety should be set at Lv5 even with the C2 Attribute. Especially since it doesn’t have M-Atk/INT to scale off.
- Cure: -1 points
- Safety Zone: +1 points
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Bokor C1
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This is fine.
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Bokor C2
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This is fine.
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Paladin C1 - C3
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This is fine.
No target-limit (At least not that I’ve seen), so this could be done on 20 mobs at once too.
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Thanks for the replies! I was considering an INT build as I thought zombies scaled with int, also my heal and cure would be stronger. I had read that Int paladins were in a better place than str ones. I also wasn’t sure if bokor could work with str. But a physical build sounds great, I’ll probably go str and con then for stats (dont think ill need dex since im not thinking of pvp). Should I put more points into Bwa Kayiman then for a phys build?
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Zombies only scale with Int if you’re Bokor C3, Ogdiveve give to Zombies STR based in you INT.
Otherwise they only scale with your SPR (from Zombify), but only to hp and nah, not worth it.
About lvls in Bwa Kayiman, dunno about. I know that Bwa get stronger with Blessing and Sacrament (for some reason I don’t know õ_o), so you can buy it from Padonner yas.
Thanks for the video reference fam, saved 
Do 4 extra levels in Zombify (from lv3) make a difference if I’m not going Bokor3, and just want the zombies as meat shields/CC?
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Pardoner’s only making you a good amount of Silver if you’re a Priest C3 & Pardoner C2. I’m unsure on how much Silver Oracle’s make on average per hour though, so you’d have to hit up the Oracle Thread for info on that.
[/quote]Why would the Oracle Thread give info on Pardoner? xD
Either way @andrevallim, from the info I gathered, Priest c3 + Pardoner c2 is… actually pretty awful money. Counting the 50% tax and materials, with the current market price, you only get 100~200 silver profit per buff sold. Not only that, you’re ruining your character completely for Spell Shop, because you need max Blessing/aspersio/Sacrament to even be competitive.
Pardoner c1 with lv1 Simony (not lv5!) can make better money if you have Krivis1 and Paladin3, and the character can remain somewhat viable/usable with a SPR, STR or INT build. SPR in particular is pretty decent, since you can use the hyper-buffed Zalciai yourself.
However, the above setup is still very slow money, AND you’d ideally want a token to sell skill scrolls. Its biggest advantage is that you can afk/grind on another character while you sell, but all setups that can do that are slow money by nature.
If you want straight-up, quick money, I’d recommend going for a class that can solo dungeons (for more ease of boss rushing without looking 4years for a party) quickly and easily, and farm with that.
Sixaxis is talking about Oracle money generation by Change’s jackspot and Resetting, because of that the Oracle Thread.
Oh. Well, both are bad :'D. @andrevallim
Resetting’s bugged it seems, doesn’t always work (it does, but Clairvoyance doesn’t properly display what the drops were reset to)… and Change’s jackpot is EXPENSIVE to level up. Takes several months to even pay for what you spent.
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Like AHopz said, Zombie damage only scales with INT at C3 with the Ogouveve skill. Yeah, your Heal/Cure would be stronger, but that’s not a good trade-off since all damage from your Paladin Circles would be notably weaker. Bokor works with STR at C2 thanks to Bwa Kayiman’s CC, and you’ll be able to use your character in Demon Prison District 2 to grind silver better than I can. I’m an INT Bokor C3 and with Bwa, I earn around 200k an hour there without silver mobs. It’s not much, but after I finish my PDPS set I’ll hopefully be able to hit 350k.
Nope, that skill always stays at Lv1. It has poor damage scaling per skill level.
It makes CC’ing and keeping Zombie presence up easier.
Not on Pardoner, on Oracle’s monster-altering skills. [Chops]
And yeah, forgot to mention that if you go the Pardoner money-making route, it’d pretty much be an alt-character that you park in a city or grinding map while you play something else.
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Or you can specifically buy buff from your own shop
Save money = Get money
For a Bokor1-PD build, is it work picking up Bokor2 just for Mackangdal + higher lvl effigy?
Along with Bwa Kayiman and the fact that you’re ending in Plague Doctor, of course.
After some thought and looking around at quite a few threads… I’m not very certain of my Bokor C3 build. I’m planning on going into oracle and plague doctor. I’m partied up with a c3 wiz going into thau c3 too I believe, if that’s of any relevance. I also am an INT based build. I’m just about ready to hit c1 Bokor and thought I’d best get someone to take a look over my build since I’m starting to worry about my choices.
Any feedback is quite greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Rab! \o
Feedback gladly supplied:
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Cleric C1
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This is fine.
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Krivis C1
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You might want to have Daino at Lv4 minimum, as it has more priority over Aukuras for C1 Krivis. You won’t run into it early on, but later in the game you’ll find a lot of full-support Clerics without Krivis/Daino that fill up buff slots.
- Aukuras: -2 points
- Daino: +2 points
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Bokor C1
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This is fine.
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Bokor C2 - C2
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Samediveve should be at Lv5 minimum, as the movement speed increase below that isn’t worthwhile. Zombify doesn’t need to be past Lv11, as you’ll have 15 Zombies thanks to the Creating Zombie attribute, which is also the max amount of explosions Damballa can trigger (At Lv5). Ogouveve doesn’t need to be past Lv1, since the only boost it gives is +AoE ATK Ratio for Zombies and Zombies don’t need that since their damage is mediocre at end-game (Rank 7+ stage) most of the time.
- Zombify: -1 points
- Ogouveve: -4 points
- Samediveve: +2 points
- Damballa: +3 points
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Oracle
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Should have at least 1 point in Change to use for fun, and a low chance at summoning Jackpot monsters once you have the money to level the Attribute. You can take a point from Prophecy or Arcane Energy to accomplish this.
- Prophecy or Arcane Energy: -1 points
- Change: +1 points
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Plague Doctor
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Healing Factor should be at Lv3 minimum, as it’s a great restoration ability (Priority cast on you or the Tank for dungeons). Beak Mask doesn’t need any points in it unless you’re participating in PvP, since you’ll usually be behind your other party members and out of the way of getting frozen/stunned/slept. Unless you just want to run around wearing the Crow Mask, the point for Healing Factor comes out of this.
- Beak Mask or Pandemic: -1 points
- Healing Factor: +1 points
Have fun, and, welcome to the world of Bokors~
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at which +anvil enhance does superior corona consistently overpower krausas for effigy damage??
+39.
is that a real number? 
number-wise, isnt like +10 reasonable enough?