You know that subzero is a Rank 1 CC, that can be blocked with any dispeller scroll, right?
And SPR gives resist to it, right?
And that any Oracle or Plague doc are immune to this, right?
And you know that lancers can obliterate magic, right?
It would be a fine skill, if with limits of reflection.
Sage have a skill like that, it absorbs every magic and arrows.
You know that dispeller doesn’t work in TBL and GvG right?
You know that physical classes don’t increase SPR right?
You know that lancer only crash magic circle, not buff right?
You know that absorb is weaker than reflection right?
Bro, do you even TBL? 
Yes, then no. Dispeller Scrolls can’t be used inside the TBL arena.
Still a rumor. No hard proof/confirmation/facts still. Also, while it might not affect support and most wiz/cleric builds much, spending points in SPR makes most p.Atk builds weaker in terms of stat focus.
Oracle, what? Now I’m not sure if Counter Spell works on buffs, but it has a 90s cooldown whereas sub-zero only has 45s.
As for PD, bloodlet duration is halved in TBL if I’m right. Beak Mask only applies to the PD himself.
We don’t have much info about it yet. Too early to make such conclusion. Also, not all swordsman are gonna be lancers.
Yes, yes, yes and yes.
So?
All yes, just no to balance 
But it can be used in duels.
Spr is fine for Chaplains that attacks basic. And it really does give you resist to lvl 1 cc. Tested with 200 SPR over heals, and with rune of protection.
Prophecy
Go play a swordman, then come back and tell me subzero shield is balanced you don’t even play a physical class
I play as secondary Sw2, hopl 2, corsair 2, dragoon.
I don’t know about you, but I have no problems with swordman.
Sure you don’t have problem as swordman, problem is when swordman meet subzero shield
Yeah the heal scaling is ridiculous how players can heal a whole combo stalling the duel nonstop. they either need to add a cool down every time you step on the heals or reduce the heals greatly, this is pretty much why majority of the botters role clerics.
Swordsman is not good at all in pvp, thank god they can build into corsair for the hook chain, they rely greatly on the restrain attribute and pain barrier without it they’re just luggage and usually die before they reach their target.
Subzero Shield isn’t the only problem Wizard also have reflect shield so it makes it even worse.
@thailehuy bud, don’t bother with this elitist, clueless player.
@windysama reaaaally? I just asked if you TBL since you seemed so determined to make subzero a god skill and you had to post a pick of you with a shiny number?
Let’s recap:
Basically, you want to not get killed, not just by swordsman, but archers too.
I won’t even try to reply to your other retorts. You’re just all over the place man. You just shift from topic to topic. XD
I’m still laughing at that pic though. Don’t ask me why. You’ll just get disappointed.
As long as you have corsair, subzero is not a problem. Rodelero can deal with it.
And catapharacts can impale the mage and kill him after the buff ends.
For 5v5 it may take too long. For 2v2 it’s a easy job.
You’re not making any sense, half of your solutions make the attacker get frozen.
The longer this thread is going, the more OP is lost in his own world. XD
What? I don’t think so.
I WILL say though, In PvP, there should be a diminishing heal effect that perhaps stacks for every 2 grids that decreases heal efficiency by 10%, until they go down to perhaps 30% of their original value?
May be too much work, but it’d still be somewhat more wholesome, I think. Hell, maybe even some sort of heal block effect.
I think alot of skills or just CC in general for PvP standards need diminishing values, but not overly clumbersome to make things a bursty meta.
Now that you mention it, that’s actually pretty good. With the resurrection nerf on tbl, the instances of unfair gameplay lessened.
I really don’t get it. Why such tempest about subzero. Since the real problem in arena is the large range of broken CC that a Psychokino have.
If buffing subzero is not a good idea, ok move on.
After Psychokino comes Hunter’s CC and even after that comes Corsair’s CCs. Way after that comes subzero.
Well, just remove all bonus healing from heal and it should be fine. 5% flat heal per tile isn’t something big.
You mean as long as you don’t touch subzero shield, it won’t be a problem? Corsair hook freeze you as well
Rodelero can avoid it. The moment you attack, you are frozen
You mean 8s impale gonna last longer than 45s of subzero shield? Also you can get frozen while impaling as well.
You know why? Because you can walk around Raise, you can walk around magnetic force, you can kill hunter pet first, and hook freeze corsair. Nothing give you the rambo flag like subzero shield.
Barrier being scrollable is fine. More skills should be scrollable. It lets parties fill out necessary slots without forcing them to have a very specific party setup.
However, Barrier needs some good attributes, like Joint Penalty and Hangman’s Knot have. JP and HK being scrollable won’t kill Linker, because the attributes still make a Linker’s JP/HK much stronger than a scrolled JP/HK.