Tree of Savior Forum

Choice of weapon for Fencer

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

So in short, is Venier or Catacombs Rapier better for high DEX (2 DEX : 1 STR) Fencer?

I’ve got Venier at the moment and it feels like I’m wasting my high crit rate on mediocre critical damage with Venier. I didn’t do any in-depth testing, but after trying it out on a couple of mobs it seemed a bit weird. For example my regular hit with basic attack is 700, and crit with basic attack on same mob is only 1000, while with any other weapon damage from my crits used to be more than double in comparison to a regular hit.

This makes it seem like only Physical Attack stat of Venier is calculated for critical hits, and +286 Holy Property Attack bonus is completely out of the formula and only affects regular non critical hits. In theory it’s good for multiple hit skills, but what if 80% of those multiple hits are crits?

I can see how this weapon would be amazing with STR build, but with DEX build aren’t crits wasted with Venier since Holy Property Attack bonus doesn’t affect them?

I have to say that this is my first time playing swordsman class so I might be missing something here (and hopefully I do), but wouldn’t Catacombs Rapier be a better option for high DEX build while Venier is more suited for high STR or “All-around” builds?

#2

Venier.

my crits are stronger with it, not sure what other weapons you are testing but my weapons are:

Venier and Magas Rapier

Venier also has +2 skills and 19 spr which fencer really needs but you dont want to be putting your stats on it so it’s a big bonus.

normally you would spam your spells more than you normal attack so it’s something important

Catacombs rapier is a good choice for tanking on un-evadeable mobs though

edit: tell which weapons you are testing with it so we can figure it out, also your base classes prior to fencer

edit2: check this thread out for the formula, might help you Arde Dagger, Does it stack with your CRITICAL attack?

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#3

Thanks for an answer man, you made me realize a big flaw in my test - rather than comparing actual damage I got fixated on the fact that critical damage is not double or more than double of a damage with regular hit.

But you’re right, despite of all that actual critical hit damage with Venier is still higher than crits of typical weapons with nothing but p.atk (I was using Sharp Rapier for comparison by the way).

I feel quite stupid right now for making such a dumb comparison. Got kind of confused about how does holy property attack bonus work with critical damage.

Oh, and my build is 1 Peltasta, 3 Barbarian, 2 Fencer (but still 1st circle of Fencer at the moment).

#4

I have catacombs atm and I can deal around 1k crit normal hit(lvl 222) vs 226 monster .

But to be fair I still see Venier is stronger imo.
Was planning to get one myself for variety of situation and testing purpose.