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Chaplain Math - Intelligence vs Spirit (mainly Priest Math)

Ah I see, I thought that INT bonus for only for Magic Attack, but it actually applies to the full stat.

So the bonus stat is INT for Wizard and Cleric? STR for Swordsman?

every class gets an INT and STR bonus of 10% per Rank above 1

Awesome!

Also, Cure is having a buff in damage as well, it seems: now it won’t simply scale with 1 INT, but 1.2 INT, having a solid 20% more damage from the INT influence.

In my Chaplain DPS build, I was thinking on getting Krivis c1 before PD because of Zaibas and other buffs/debuffs, but with Cure buff, I’m not sure if it’s worth getting Krivis instead of Cleric 2… You can easily buy scrolls for Daino and other buffs/debuffs, but as a Cleric 2 you’ll have much more Heal power (as your graphics are saying), Safety Wall and Cure damage… I could get Druid c1 too I think, but I’m not sure if it’s better than Cleric/Krivis damage-wise.

Gj! I few questions…

In Healing scale are you using the healing formula:

Additional HP Recovery Rate: ((50 + (35 + INT)) × 1.5) × 1.1 ~ ((50 + (35 + INT)) × 1.5) × 1.3

or
the attack/spell power formula

Attack: (X + INT)

?

The SPR Chaplain will have plenty SP, more SP-Recovery, Black Penetration and slighty more MDef.
The SPR-Chaplain will also have stronger debuff:
Deprotected Zone = -1 DEF * SPR per Stack
Monstrance = -0,4 DEF & Evasion * SPR

Maybe you should add Stone Skin?

In the end, INT-Priests will deal much more dmg with spells. Who would’ve thought?

What Priest Spell Damage you talking about in those graphs? Aspersion?
Do you mean Cleric Cure+Heal?

haha I I knew I forgot something. Will add stone skin onto the list. Thanks.

I am using the Healing formula, but I eliminated all constants so it’s (INT * 1,5 * 1,1 + INT * 1,5 * 1,3)/2 as that is the value that seperates INT from SPR.

I’m talking about ALL Spells there are. The “Spell 2xINT” graph is for spells like heal and cure as they scale twice with INT. “Spell 1xINT” is for any other spell.
Again that’s only the damage you gain from INT. Add the Spell Base damage and you will get the final damage.

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why does cure and heal deals 2xint?

@furkingbustar
Heal base damage calculation: 35 + ([Skill Level] - 1) × 8 + INT
Cure base damage calculation: rounddown(6 + ([Skill Level] - 1) × 1.8 + INT)
Then you have to add MAtk which also scales with INT
-> 2xINT :slight_smile:

Nice

We can see that a INT-Chaplain will have a stronger Aspersion (stronger autos), Heal, Mass-Heal and stronger Magic Attack Skills than a SPR Chaplain.

Isn’t it the opposite?

That sentence is correct for the current patch. It will change with kTOS patch. I’ll remove the line so that it’s clearer where it belongs :smiley:

@greg8745
I added a cure graph. Thanks - I missed that change :slight_smile:

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and formula for exorcism and magnus?

There is no INT in the base dmg, so it only scales with MATK -> 1x INT

Just curious, did you you factor in blessing in cure damage?

This has me curious.

Let’s say at rank 10 (should the game last long enough for us to get it). You get 90% more INT. So in the equation [(SPR x 0.06) + (INT x 0.02)] x (skill lv - 1), let’s substitute INT with 1.9 x INT. We get [(SPR x 0.06) + (1.9 x INT x 0.02)] x (skill lv - 1). Simplifying we get [(SPR x 0.06) + (INT x 0.038)] x (skill lv - 1)

Even at the highest (assumed) rank SPR will still scale better for the “new bless”

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In the kTOS Spell Damage diagram, Blessing is added everywhere. I’ll reword it in the OP :slight_smile:

@c2gaming
you are aboslutely right. Nothing (not lvl nor class ranks) will change any order of the graphs

than the formula for MATK?
issit MATK = int + weapon matk?

Magic Attack in your character sheet = CharacterLVL + INT + Any MATK on equip

ok and then lets say i got exorcism that do 500 dmg how do i calculate my dmg?

Exorcise Tooltip dmg = 500?
that’s quite simplified: (500 + Magic Attack + Property Damage) * (1 + Attribute%)
Magic Attack from Character Sheet

So if you’d have 800 Matk, Attribute lvl 50 and Sacrament lvl 10. it would be:
(500 + 800 + 40) * (1+ 0,5) = 2010

but you have to check enemy property, enemy defense and so on.
To calculate the final dmg check the dmg-formula:

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Thanks for crunching the numbers for us!

From your explanation, can I conclude that, assuming this is an investment for when the patch finally comes here, spr is better than int is for Chaplains?

Is this solely because of Blessing? What if there is a really cool int-based class at rank 8?

Coincidentally, I started a new toon a day ago and he’s gonna be an aspiring Chaplain someday. Your numbers help me a lot haha.

SPR will be better for auto-attacking as Chaplain solely because of the Blessing changes. That’s why the gap with a 5-Hit Chaplain is even greater.
But if you have further classes with many Magic Attacks INT might be favored as all those attacks wouldn’t be as effective with a SPR build.

To let numbers talk a little bit more:
An INT-Chaplain with maxed Aspersion Attribute will reach ~92,5% of the auto-attack damage increase potential of a SPR-Chaplain with maxed attribute.
If we add cafrisun the potential gets lowered to ~87%.

But for Magic Attacks an INT-Chaplain damage increase potential is
with attribute lvl 0
~431% for double-INT-scaling spells and ~242% for standard-int-scaling spells
with maxed attribute the values get ~808% and 431%.

If you’re using Magic Attack inbetween auto attacks the overall DPS of an INT-chaplain will still be much better