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Chaplain, con/int or con/spr? please help

Class and Rank Cleric
#101

No one actually care about aspergillum damage when the discussion is later shifted to INT VS SPR in a total. For the whole class structure instead. :stuck_out_tongue:

If you pick chapalin basically you are Priest 3 at least. Chapalin has Magnus which does not bad damage and doesn’t seem to have AOE ratio.
It’s a additional + for INT orientated builds.

PD2 stand alone offers you better you INT with status removal which is why balance and hybird is wayyyyy better atm AYYYY lmao. yes.

SPR is only superior for lower tier or ticks per hit. Well because blessing is really great at lower. it turns moot when bosses hp goes up to a few hundred millions and mob HP goes up to 500k ++. 50 ticks of 600 is only 30k.
Stone skin gives any shielder max/cap block actually. Whenever it’s up
I find that + 1.2k block is way more than enough to 100% block atm.

As compare to DPS later like what druid and other can offer via int or the stand alone PD2. It gives up up to a 300k-500k damage over 20 second
Which make INT more worth to invest at the moment than Pure SPR.

It’s a sad life of SPR support. I used to enjoy playing pure SPR but rank 8 just make it moot really. Unless Rank 9 is able to pull back SPR with a superior type scaling buff. Or else it will be relegated.

It’s still DPS beneficial to the party, but hey i guess each of us got our playstyle.
IMO chapalin is basically a perma buff bot with table and able to “deal out a little dps with magnus + 4 lines of hits” If upgradin to PD . you are actually the Jack.

#102

chaplain spr doesn’t run r7-r8 plague doctor

krivis+cleric2 lock into rank6 to 7rank

krivis1 and cleric2 is must for buffbot build

only viable choice for rank8 is inquisitor (that doesn’t good as magic/physic build)

or utility class like a oracle c1 or pardoner c1 for magic resist

spr build is support class anyway so dps isn’t the first thing to go

spr provide big stone skin big critical attack
big cri chance (- enemy cri resist)
big -def (deprotect and monstrance)

chaplain circle is just a leveling tool that make spr build viable solo quest
2 more attack line for blessing tick, and aspergillum that scale with spr/magic attack

chaplain doctor int would outdamage by diev-doctor

#103

Definitely it will be out damage by diev doctor cause it is a full INT orientated.

But Having Chapalin doesn’t mean you will need to go Full anything. You can Go best of both worlds. Having stone skin with 1k+ is enough to cap out max block with shield and aias

It as good as saying diev-doctor will lose to bokor-doctor. You gotta realise the strength of the circle you are getting and letting off.

Krivis is practically useless if you have daino and zailcai scroll. If you want to blame, blame pardoner scroll creation. As good as making paladin useless with their barrier.

If you don’t run doctors for R7 there’s only kabbalist and oracle and pardoner. Which isn’t all that great looking at oracle C3 and Kabbalist C2

Which make either taking really lacking as compare to a PD class. PD gives you free dispellers up to lv 3 + healing factor. Which does not need spr to scale. As for R8 pretty much but it’s pretty bad to to INT builds.
Physical builds are better due to wheel or line damage splashy builds.

So there is not much choices. Which i mentioned. Unless something looks decent with SPR at R9, R8 is INT fiesta

#104

does zailcai scroll sclale with whoes spr, caster or creator. I pick Krivis for -.Cri Res and + Crit dame, where R8 is the world of Crit because of outdame skill.

#105

Caster spr. Yea basically Krivis is a free circle that can be solve through pardoner silvers.

#106

even if spr scales with stone skin, are you really gonna sacrafice ur solo ability for a defensive buff?

#107

Hi guys, im now a lvl 75 Priest c2, i want to build a Chaplain/PD 2 offensive style but i dunno what to take main Stat, any help?

Also, it’s good to take Magnus/Exorcise now?

#108

You have Three options. I got a C2 Cleric, C3 Priest, Chaplain myself.

Full on int will greatly bolster your Aspergellium damage, your incinerate, your magnus, and anything magic attack related, as well as greatnly enhance your Heals and Mass Heal. It will also partially boost your blessing and other buffs.

Full on spirit will greatly bolster your buffs and support, grant you M.Def which is sorely needed right now due to new content kicking everyones ass who lacks M.Def, grant you better status immunity, higher SP of course, and regen, youll be a much better support, it will also greatly enhance your stoneskin and certain other abilities.

Third option? 3:1 Int and Spirit, just make sure you have, regardless of build, at least 50 points into Con, youll want 22k+ HP if you can manage it, more the better, specially with this new content. Can get Con to around 110+ with gear and attributes your good to go. Third option will lessen your overall damage, but your Stone Skin wont be useless, youll have some of the perks spirit can provide, and basically make you a more balanced character between Damage and Heavy Support.

I myself went with the 3:1 route, I am however leveling a Palaquisitor now due to how loved Inquisitor is in PVE and PVP, but I will level my Chaplain Doctor eventually so id have him for specific party make ups. Plus Chaplain Doctor is SO much less complex to play compared to Palaquisitor lol…I enjoy it.

And yes, max out Magnus and Exorcise. They been hella buffed now. Exorcise is no longer useless, Magnus is ridiculous when you have high int.

Tbh with you sometimes I wanna just level the Chaplain Doctor over my Palaquisitor simply due to how hard it will be to gear my Palaquisitor to be effective, while my Chaplain Doctor, the only thing he would really need is a agni neck for Incinerate and then just get whatever gear you can over time, youll be powerful start to finish so long as you have decent gear. Reason being for this is Palaquisitor relies on Crit rate, and getting enough of it is a daunting task.

Either way you will have no problems getting into PVE and PVP groups as a Chaplain Doctor. With three ways to heal, plenty of buffs, and all the awesomeness of PD2, you will have alot of fun my friend.

Lol christ…now I wanna play it and stop Palaquisitor for now -_-; but I love being a physical based character, just ugh…its gonna be so hard to gear the build. And I keep going over my head either Miko or Plague Doctor for the 7th rank after C3 Paladin and before Inquisitor. beh

#109

offensive style?? go INT. pretty obvious
SPR can works if you play blessing but not that good. Unless you rely on auto attack and prepare to press z for the rest of your rank 8 and hopefully rank 9 will save you

on global community, My suggestion here is if you are going DPS, you have to really really go DPS as what cleric needed are heals>DPS>buffs.
But in some cases I do see that defensive support still works.
I foresee that Priest 3 with the OP stone skin in PvE can be an ultimate defensive support that offers multi protection.

Blame IMC for making that 4 stars map :joy:

Edit:some people did say magnus exo is good but still overshadowed by inqui or tao but decent damage still do good

#110

Well, Chaplain is a rank5 class, inqui and tao are rank8…they should do more damage.

#111

I see, i will try the INT/SPR build, spend 70 CON (Rest i will take for Gear), SPR like 100/120 and rest to INT, it’ll be ok whit that stats right?

#112

I wouldn’t suggest with mixing stat. Go with at 50-100 con and the rest to either INT or SPR

You can see which skills that scales with SPR:
-stone skin(best phy. defensive buffs atm. But either high or full to keep up with high level content)
-blessing(SPR>INT much more better if you rely on multi hits auto attack)
-mass heal
-aspersion(nope… this is not DPS skills)
-aspergillium(combine this with blessing)
-deprotected zone(the scale still horrible)
-monstrance

with INT:
-heal damage and heal allies
-cure(good scale)
-mass heal
-aspersion
-exorcise
-Aspergillium
-Magnus exorcimus(gets an area so it becomes better)
-Incineration which is your main DPS

again, while I still say I don’t recommend, it’s still up to you. This is from what I experienced and know after all. This might will outdated with rank 8 testing and future ranks available

#113

Hi, Im lvl228 chap/pd int base, so far i dont feel any regret for my current level area. regarding exo and magnus after patch is really good now
even at rank 8 still good for filler because 2 skill just put and forget then you still can do your rank 8 skill in same time.

this is my view to my current char, how your char built is up to you maybe you need study more and take more info about it then decide which route good for you.

#114

You forgot to include Blessing too… assuming we get 11 rank total, then INT (which gets double stat scaling) will compete quite well, initially 2% vs 6% scaling to 4% vs 6%… quite decent i’d say

#115

I would spend it on somewhere else if I was INT build