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Catapracht Build and Swordsman Class

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Greetings Saviors, I’m a Player from Silute server, currently leveling up a 213 Pyro, and have some low level archer characters, but i’m wanting to create a Swordsman Class characther.

First of all, i heard times ago that Swordsman Class is one of the weakest classes in the Tree of Savios and have a greate fall in its useful and power in endgame. This is true? Is worth in spending money doing a swords class?

I played the two CBTS as swordsman, going to hoplite and highlander, but many things have changed since the CBT, and i even can’t reach higher levels in CBT to have a good look in Swords class.

So… i don’t know which swords path follow. I’ve some interest in catapracht for mov speed and being a mounted class. Can anyone say some catapracht builds and its useful and potential?

OBS: I want cataprachts build without Hoplite on it, i played as Hoplite alot in the very beggining in the open beta and dislike its gameplay.

OBS2: If can you say me the status to put and why, gems to put and why, skills allocation and smth like that i would apreciate.

OBS3: Sorry for bad english.

#2

Swordsman aren’t in as bad a spot as they were in the beginning of the year with Dragoon, Fencer and Doppel being actual DPS people want to take and Pelt not being the required circle for swordies.
Swordies do have the inherent Disadvantage of being melee without any way to heal themselves so be mindful of that.

If you want to go for Cata you’d need to go Cata3 (it’s a 3 or no Circle class)
You could go the classic Sword3 > Cata3 (PvP mainly) or mix a circle of Pelt or Hop in there for better PvE. (You don’t really use Hop on Cata at all, mainly 1 Circle for Finestra.)
You can then end the build with Doppel -> Lancer (PvP class mainly for now because it has a lot of utility and a little less damage) or Dragoon (standard and Dethrone itself is worth it)

For stats: Dex is currently the best stat for physical dps. 80-100 con (maybe less) rest dex is kind of standard on swordie, I think

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#3

Hi, cataphract is my favorite class, in fact I have 3!

lvl 330 sw 3 > cata 3 > goon 2

  • the most generic catagoon build, more futureproof
  • have more burst damage than other cata builds
    lvl 330 sw 3 > cata 3 > corsair > lancer
  • more tactical cataphract
  • more utility and CC
    lvl 280 sw 3 > cata 3 > doppel 2
  • my new main, non meta for fun build.

sw 3 > cata 3 being the core build, sw3 offers max pain barrier to avoid getting knockdown/knockback which makes your skills less interruptable, max restrain synergizes with rush, also another source of CC besides knockdowns, cata 3 max mobility and rush skill.

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#4

This is the best I could salvage from @DieHardLancer’s cata guide:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ERtUbrqgK8MJ:https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/diehardlancers-official-in-depth-cataphract-guide-for-pvp-and-pve-plz-check-the-updated-thread-2nd-part/332683+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ph

I think it’s the outdated one but most info should still be relevant.

Then follow the standard Sw3 Cata3 as what @Blanko1230 and @Tanzen suggested.

Cata has the advantage of having innate block pen (class attribute) so going low to no STR won’t be much of a problem, even moreso if you went with Lancer at rank 8 due to having Initiate.

^ what he said.

Gems?

Red if you’re mostly doing PVP since it’s hard to land crits. Yellow for mostly PVE. I did see some well-geared whaleknights going full Green on their lv.315 trans-10 weapon, skipping 2xSissel for 2xPhada or buying 2 of those +90 SPR 1-week rental bracelets from TP shop.

Yellow (for more pDef) on top and bottom plate armor which can either be Virtov or Grynas and then Lolo later on (standard plate gear progression). Grynas/Virtov gauntlets w/ yellow for more block pen or green for more accuracy or a monster gem (IIRC seedmia gem can go in it?) unless IMC already fixed the issue with Demonas’ slash bonus not working with Rush. Superior Greytis Greaves or Virtov/Grynas greaves with blue gem for mDef. Both Demonas gauntlets and Superior Greytis greaves have a lv.270 IIRC upgrade version.

If you’re on a budget, you can go with a Superior Royal Guard set but don’t put gems nor transcend them. Maybe you can upgrade them to +3 and/or awake them if you have your own alchemist but that’s it.

They’re old, but here are some vids of my solo runs on my CataGoon before:

#5

@Tanzen
which stats should we go for in those builds?

#6

lvl 280 sw 3 > cata 3 > doppel 2

Wow how da hell do u play this build? Cyclone 10 and DoV 10 alone?

#7

Hello, sorry for late reply but i only could answer now.

So swordsman class aren’t too bad as they used to in the beggining off OBT?
Swords3>Cata3 works in PvE or its works only in PvP? I don’t have gear and money to waste in sets and skills, so i’m looking for a pve build for now.

So, instead picking lancer at the last rank, its best pick Doppel…? And then the build would be like this: Swords3>Cata3>Dragoon>Doppel?
or Swords2>Pelt1>Cata3>Dragoon>Doppel?

So the best status point to put is nearly full dex with some points in Con?

#8

Hello! Thanks for Advices Tanzen!
I Always wanted to create a catapracht but because the rumours i heard about swords being weak in late game makes me let catapracht project aside. But swordies seems to be great now and i’ll crete one.

One question: sw3>cata 3> goon 2 works for pve?
I don’t like corsair, so it would be possible put a build like:
Sw3>cata3>goon1>doppel?
Or even this build with a pelt in middle? Sw2>pelt1>cata3>goon1>doppel?

Put pelt in this build will lack its damage?

#9

Zero, thanks for reply. I’m still reading your comment but thanks for all effort put in answer me.

The guide seems to be very good to me. I’m reading it and seems to be very complete. I’ll update this post when i read everything.

#10

No, you misunderstood me. End with Dragoon2 for PvE. Doppel1 is only to be picked as a support Circle when you don’t want anything else (unless you do something weird like @Tanzen but I don’t recommend it to inexperienced players).
Dragoon2 is currently one of the 3 high DPS circles for Swordies. Going Dragoon1 only is really bad since you miss out on Dethrone (basically what makes Dragoon so strong right now).
It’s generally a bad idea to not pick a Rank8 circle either (Doppel3/Fencer3, Dragoon2, Murmillo) since they have much higher base damage and the difficulty spike later in the game needs that base damage.

Sword3Cata3 is mostly a PvP build but it can solo most PvE content reasonably. Just don’t expect to be taken for Earth Tower or dedicated parties. I’m running a Sword2Hop1 for PvE myself currently. Less survivability cause Restrain and Pain Barrier aren’t maxed but I get Finestra which helps with damage.

Pelt1 would give you taunt and the ability to block + a nice defensive buff (Guardian) -> Sword2Pelt1 is probably the best Cata version for PvE but that’s more of a guess.

At this point I’m also just repeating DieHards guide for build paths but Cata isn’t too hard to build with mandatory circles 4-6. So yeah, give that guide a read (google archiv was provided by @ZeroFoxGiven so just give it an intensive read)

#11

Oh yeah, i think now i can understand you better.

So, if i go to sw3> cata 3 i’ll have more survivability and less damage, and its a mainly pvp build.

If i go to Sword2>Hop1>Cata 3 i’ll have less survivability and more damage, and i think its more a pvE build because hoplite skills (?)

If i go to sword2>pelt1>cata3 I’ll have a good survivability and less damage, and i’ll can do pvE better.

I confess, i need fo focus in pve now because i don’t have much money and need to make some, but… i’ll try put sw3 because the fun factor…

#12

@Blanko1230
What skills should we put on Cataphract? Is Steed Charge worth it or should we keep Earth Wave-Doom Spike-Rush?

#13

Steed charge is optional. It is not bad but u can skip it also.

#14

^this
Earth Wave, Doom Spike, Trot and Rush and 1 point for Impaler are the main skills.
It’s nice to have some points (1) in Steed Charge for the knockdown but not really needed.

#15

@Blanko1230
i’ve read somewhere that we cant reset stats anymore. Is that true? If not,how to get the potion? In game says that you need medals if im not mistaken.

#16

all my cata have full/rest DEX, CON depends on preference, i have 100 con.

#17

fSorry for the late reply, for overallcontent, sw 3 > cata 3 > goon 2 works the best. I personally don’t like pelt since it literally can only give you 18% evasion and manual block feature which right now is barely effective. sw3 wil have 5 seconds of downtime only which means skills will be less interuptible on doing combos.

like what @Blanko1230 said, taking dragoon C1 only will gimp your build, better go C2 for dethrone and serpentine debuff.

My cata doppel is exclusively made for fun, its untested yet, at least in iTos, so you might want to avoid that build, hehe.

#18

Yeah, find it much easier to level than my lancer and goon. I admit the dismounting is a bit of hassle but its fun generally.

#19

If you don’t have to dismount to use cyclone that would probably be the best cata build.

#20

I have tested it in TBL, rush with stacks of DoV is really good (10 stacks literally doubles PATK, thus doubling weapon transcend value), I was able to melt CON clerics with an outdated weapon +10 cripple which I usually can’t do with my Lancer/Goon, but it turns you into a paper against fellow swordsman and archers which is a major frustration.