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i know that most people will disagree with me but i will write this anyway.
for me IMC is trying to follow a correct path.
with rank 8 we will have a few different paths to follow and those ones for the best in their own field would be:
If we want pure damage, it must be 2handsword (doppel) or 2 hand spear(dagoon).
tank would need shield, of course.
And pvp would be with mount.
and utility corsair-squire in their own field of expertise of course.
and in the middle we have everything else who would not be the best in their own field, but still do good enough if you are not simple following the meta.
it may not be fair but i think it makes sense somehow, after all 2handsword and 2hand spear is suppose to do more damage, so the classes who focus on them should be ahead on damage and thus be the ones from sw to do damage.
for PVP we would have cata/lancer at the best spot because even if damage plays a big role on pvp, mobility also is also very important.
now.
this may seen that IMC is not trying to give choose for players who want damage with 1handsword, but at least i do not believe this is wrong, since they are trying to give the game a more realist approach in some aspects.
even more if you add the fact that there is not even one class in the game besides shield users who have specialized with one hand sword so doing a rank 8 or even rank 9 who class who can unleash a lot of damage with them does not make sense.
all the classes have some skills who can be use with 1handswords, and this also makes sense and this also should keep happening in ranks 8 and 9 , since some abilities with two hand sword should be able to be use with one hand as well but in the end if anyone try to build a character with only onehandsword for damage it should be sub-optimal.
the only mistake i see from them is that all spears skills so far can be use with one or twohand spear and this is wrong they should have add some twohandspearās skill only a example would be impaler or some skills from dagoon, so we could also have this contrast with 1 handspear and 2handspear besides only the status from the weapon.
A good point.
But I disagree in the question of ā2hand more damage than 1handā, the main point of a 2handed sword is the range not the damage, to make the game more ārealisticā 2handed need more range than 1handed and slow attack speed.
Of course there is exceptions, like falchion and etc.
Sadly 1handed is worst than sub-optimal, anyway lets see if Murmillo will give life to Rodelero and Peltasta.
The problem about Rank 8 options is a mount class actually D:
Hi, Iām currently R6 sword-pelt-hop-cata3 and planning to go Lancer. Iām kinda lost at what to get at R7, initially I planned to get Dragoon but since Iām going Lancer, c1 dragoon seems unnecessary.
I need input as what utility class best to get at R7, sword2 will give restraint and more pain barrier levels as well as concentration which have incoming buff. While hop2 can give 100% finestra uptime and spear lunge which could possibly be good to combine with lancer skill since they most likely would do piercing damage. or a c1 rod, corsair, squire, doppel have unseen potential?
Any suggestions will be welcomed, thanks.
Dude, going back to a rank2 class (sw2) is simple suicide for you.
there is only 2 viable paths right now.
the first one would be hop2 because of finestra and spear lunge like you said.
and of course dragoon for the extra damage.
now for the description of lancer, it seems that he will not focus in damage and by that pierce skills as well, it will be more on disable side, so hop2 may go to waste if we do not have many pierce skills, so i would recommend dragoon1 anyway, even if he would be of much help in your case, it is a fact that of the current options he is the most complete and the only one who could come even close is hop2.
it seems that IMC want lancer for a more focused type pvp with disables-extra damages and so on, it may seem silly for me to judge a class so soon like that but with the preview IMC have talked for about more or less 3 skills and even gave a tip of would could happen on lancer rank2, so i think is a true evaluation when i say that lancer will not have too much damage if we compare with dragoon later on, his focus will always be disable and by that PVP. , so dragoon would be the correct answer for catas who want to be on the damage type and play the PVE aspect of the game.
or even if you want to be lancer for PVP, the extra damage from dragoon 1 would always be welcome as well even if we take it as filler just to advance to lancer late on.
Most of Rodelero and Doppel skills unmount you anyway.
I am thinking about maxing impaler but wouldnt it be useless if there is a PD or oracle on the other team?
Also the million dollar question: can lancer deal with cryomancer c3?
Lancer i do not know, but the buff from trot who gives a 70% against effects, can work with freeze i think, since it did not come to itos yet, i have not tested, but i believe it may work with it.
and also lancer2, would be able to destroyer the ice three, and this alone is a huge thing in mass gvg.
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I am not biased.
(looks at my only two characters, a PelHopCataGoon, and a S3CataGoon)
Definitely not biased.
Rush is most effective when used together with Pain Barrier and Restrain, at least in PVP. While using it, you must keep moving around and not stand in one place so enemy will have a hard time CCāing (at least for ground-targeted CCs).
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What about max impaler and leave eath wave to level 5? Only for PvP purpouse of course
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Impaler duration is capped at 8 sec. And bloodletting will block it.
i have tested the status resist from pain barrier and rush and it dosenāt work, even running no resistance to cc, arena is only for ranged cc classes, swordman have notting to do here, i just will lvl a clericfor arena, swordman are useless in pvp as pve, IMC really hate the swordman class
Really interested in your Dex build, but i need to do know what can of class are you planning to take after that?
Also people seems disapproving on having such a low STR, how much is your dmg?
Anyone not taking Dragoon at rank 7? Iām not sure if I go Cata3 or Doppel2 for PvPā¦
well doppel 3 with that huge AOE can be of use, but i believe that doppel will only shine in pvp if he can take murmilio on rank 9, because that JUMP plus cyclone and to finisher that huge AOE atk, would be really nice too see but to do that murmilio can not be lock on āsword/shieldā so until rank 9 cata3 will be the best current build for pvp for swordsman be it a battle league or gvg , later on you can choose dragon2 if you to be more of a finisher in pvp or lancer if you want to be able to break the formation of the enemy and so on.
Please help me out here. I am a sword c2 > pelt 1 > cata c3.
I am finding a hard time selecting between hoplite vs dragoon.
Hoplite
1 hand spear
finestra
Dragoon
1 hand spear
additional damage skills
it is a rank 7 compared to a rank 3
From Level 1 to 150 in 2 days.hehe. hopefully be a rank 7 in 3 days.
Thanks