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Calm the fuck down people

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#15

Actually, telling people to stew-fu when they have it good already ISN’T stupid.

Every thread this week has been complaints about Circle Resets, tit-for-tat back and forth from people who want it because they were lured into effing up and idiots who copied their older brother’s perfect mathematically perfect build who think anyone who wasn’t them on their bros nuts should deal with it…

And bots…old issue, old gripes.

Telling these people get bugger off does the forum good…they’re going in circles about things that IMC isn’t stupid on, and have already notified the rest of us people with eyes that are actually used to read so we’re aware. These people are coming out of the woodwork, like people who join forums and don’t use the damn search function, to re-re-re-re-re-re-repostamilliontimes about the same gripe about mob spawn times, grind, boredom, yadda yadda McSpladda…

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#16

Please dont go F2P, its going to ruin the game

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#17

Telling people not to voice their opinions is stupid. The game is not perfect and not asking for anything to change would imply that you feel it is. Closed mouths do not get fed.

I am sure the devs want to hear what the players like and dislike. To think otherwise is idiotic. Thats why most games have community managers to be a voice of the fans by letting devs know what they want.

Telling the players “too fn bad” to every issue they bring up is not how you make a great game. Thats how you bury one. Learn basic buisness and get real.

Had to post this to you as well. You guys sound like blind fan boys. I love the game, but areas need improvement. Asking for these improvements obivously caught the eye of the devs because we are seeing changes. Pointing out flaws is not crying and it helps pin point areas that need attention.

Are you saying this game is 10/10 and absolutely nothing needs to be adjusted? If yes your ignorant and I’m wasting my time. If you agree that the game needs some tweaks, then how do you bring these things to light? By talking about it, right? Ahhhh that may be how they knew that the restrictions were too rigid and changed them a bit…seriously fam think realistically about how mmos survive. The community has to be vocal for changes to be made. That is not only in gaming.

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#18

It’s gonna happen…the game doesn’t have the content to warrant a subscription, unless they really do decide to implement a rebirth system, and actually force players to follow the quest arcs…it simply doesn’t.

#19

im not saying making the game subscription, just make it p2p. At least make people lose something if they use bot, otherwise its just going to be world of bots

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#21

Who determines what “having it good” is? Thats a communist way of thinking, no? If our government worked that way, we would be in trouble. I live in a democracy, so standards are not set in stone without having a right to say if those standards are acceptable or not. Settling for mediocrity is never something people should strive for. In games or otherwise. I’m wasting my time blind loyalty and idealism can be deeply embedded, so this is pointless. You win.

#22

Then comes the insults little boy. Debates turn to arguements when one side realizes that they cannot measure up. Also look down the peanuts you speak of are too small to do anything. I out match you there as well, some stereotypes are true, sorry. Blame genes.

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#23

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#24

THE COMMUNITY.

(The half that reads, anyway…)

As you will note, someone posted a list of gifts of good will for past transgressions from IMC, as well as what IMC clearly knows about and needs to fix.

And as I said, idiots dont bother reading it, so they repeat things that are being taken care of, not knowing how good it is to have a dev who actually fixes things instead of going FULL AERIA / NEXON / Z8 GAMES on us and saying to suck it up while at the same time sending us to the gift shop to buy RNG wares…

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#26

Looks like you don’t get my point.

What i’m implying is that at least this publisher is willing to make changes to cater to the players demands.
I’ve played in other MMOs that no matter how much the players whine, no action is being taken by the publisher. Either you accept what was given, or quit the game.

As for bots & goldseller, i’ve yet to come across any publisher that are able to tackle them asap tho. So i can’t comment much on that except for them at least trying to combat it.

#27

well there is a problem if we cant trade or give silver to our alts when there are probably no other mmorpgs that do that.

#28

No, simply not, played both, you’re just going full dramaqueen.

Let them be, they will eventually find a real solution, this is their first time PUBLISHING a game by themselves.

??

Sure.

They had a 3 months plan for the Early Access, we just cried and got 1 month.

Shame.

#29

You see… All they did was work around problems, not exactly solve them. It’s way less work and it has a lot of appeal to people like you. The problems people “whined about” are still there if you look closely, and that’s going to come back and bite IMC in the ass in the long run.

This one is so amusing. :grin: We should totally get over a broken system and think about ways to deal with it. Oh, no, wait, that’s IMC’s job. Crazy, right? People claiming a developer should take care of their own game.

Given that most skills’ texts are weirdly phrased or just plain deceptive, I wouldn’t say people know what they’re getting into if they didn’t read a database before. This is a serious issue, especially for R7 classes.

Now this is a "calm the ■■■■ down"able issue. kudos :grin:

IDK, maybe trying to have fun? It might sound weird to you, but some people don’t think this game’s grinding is “hard” - they think it’s just plain boring. Higher level mobs are exactly the same as lower level mobs, only with more HP and damage.

I had to end with this one. It’s not a founder’s fault if the game is not good. Instead of telling people to calm the ■■■■ down and back the game up, while pinning the game’s problems on them (which is what you did), think a li’l bit and you’ll see who’s the one you should be telling to ball the ■■■■ up and solve problems instead of throwing thinly-veiled workarounds. :grin:

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#30

The publisher? We aren’t dealing with any publisher. IMC are the devs and you simply overglorify what they did.

Yes they listened, why would you applaud to that? Every business has to listen to a GREAT degree to their customers or be out of customers soon.

Most games cannot tackle gold sellers asap, because devs don’t properly invest time into finding problems that will come and learning from other games.

Just look at this idiocy: Diablo 3 came out without anti bot protection. It was implemented like 3-4 months later in a very basic form. Diablo2 was one of the biggest botted games in history at that point. Dev answer? They didn’t know.

The industry is full of devs exactly like that.

#31

Oh LORDY I forgot and I play Trove lol.

Spent $600 on it…regrets.

#32

i think you made a lot of good points but really this is just another ■■■■ post if you have common sense.

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#33

They listened to what? lol
All they did was create unnecessary/shitty restriction/ game mechanics (that were not on the betas).Then, everyone complains about the things they created for no reason. So they change a little bit the thing that should not even exist in the first place and the whiteknights say they are listenning to the community o.O

#34

My bad, didn’t bother whether they’re the publisher or developer.

Yes, i’ll agree with you on that. However, not all big shots listened to their customer. Buy they’re doing good, and still is.

If you meant in-game captcha, of all the MMOs i’ve ever played up to-date, i have only seen ONE game implementing that. But it was a MMO that’s been around 10+ years ago and has long closed their shop. (not a fan of Diablo here - their aesthetics doesn’t suit my taste)

Too bad our views are on a different page. Because i’ve worked in the CS & IT department and it’s not easy dealing with lots of negativity from the customer base, and the faulty technical stuffs. That’s my reason of creating the first post. Which i’m too lazy to point out in the first place.

Anyway, the reason i replied back, is because your view also make sense, but maybe in a different chapter. So, thanks for taking the time to read the second half of my lengthier impression unlike someone here that quoted every single point of my first half with what? and accusing me of being a drama queen. (PS : I have also played in cbt2 - i’m not blindly stating anything if you’re still reading my latest post)