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Building the upcoming Shinobi! (or any upcoming SW really)

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hello! I just wanted to create a topic to discuss the upcoming Swordsman changes! (in case you didn’t see, the dev post is here: https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1229). I was thinking by myself but I really wanted to share and discuss more!

So, since my favorite class is Corsair, and looks like it will be viable to go 3 ranks with it, I was thinking in giving Corsair3>Shinobi a go, but there are 2 “blank” ranks that I cannot really figure out what the perfect/most viable pick. The build would be like this:
SW3>X>Corsair3>Shinobi>X

At first I was thinking Barb2
Cleave would boost subsequent Cleaves, Double Slash, Seism and Dust Devil ,which will all be copied by clones, Cleave weirdly enough boosts Pistol Shot (Yeah, Cleave debuff boosts Gun damage), making it a quite good AoE farmer.
You also would get the Jolly Roger and Warcry to taunt mobs as well some utility and frenzy to boost your attack speed and damage.

Skill build would look like this (Consider Unlock Chest the new skill: Dagger Impale)
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11116888d6.3f4f5a85.ba955565a5.12457d5a8a95.55254411

But my current idea is to go Hop2.
Hop2 has the amazing Lunge debuff that is used for Kunai, Hexen Dropper and Dagger Impale (that I’m 99% sure it’s a pierce attack and the .gif image shows it has 4 OHs) which are high damage skills.
Finestra for good crit rate without lv7+ green gems and extra AoERatio, Long Stride will be buffed by a lot (+100% damage if weight is over 50%, reduced CD to 30s, wider AoE and double the number of targets), Pierce and Stabbing are also getting buffed to work very well as fillers.

And most importantly, the ability to use spears!

Sadly this build cannot use Syncro Thrusting, and maybe the evasion loss from Finestra makes you too squishy since shields are out of question.

Skill build would look like this (Consider Unlock Chest the new skill: Dagger Impale)
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11114888d4.3f4f5a85.1a283a5171.12457d5a8a95.55254411

So… What do you think? What would you guys pick in X? Any of these combinations or another set of classes? Or other classes instead of SW2 and SW3? Please feel free to discuss other builds too =)

Let’s discuss!

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#2

i want to try this build sword c2 barb c3 corsair c3 shinobi for max frenzy, because have sinergy with new double weapon assalt, and remenber new reworks will come, and i want barb rework and other lower rank sword classes for see more sinergys with higher rank classes.

#3

nothing changed for my builds, maybe the only thing I don’t like is the removal of Corsair skill without replacing it with something equally good :confused:

I mean am a corsair, I should be taking what I want D:

#4

What do you mean equally good? Unlock chest was totally useless, instead Corsairs got dagger impale which is a 4OH skill, personally I think it’s fine, but we’ll have to see in game test to be sure. But I’m certain that is better than unlock chest skill

#5

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11116888de

This build is what I have in mind, lunge + cleave to boost slash attacks while rapier aggresion passive + attaque to boost pierce attacks, Barb C2 is nice but I dislike additional setups like stacking which only works in AA and C2 frenzy have high downtime. Hoplite C2 will not have the bonus hits in stabbing which would be a letdown.

Corsair C3 is really on a tight spot even with the new skill because it’s alternative variants; shinofencer, and shinodoppel are far more superior in damage. The selling factor of it should have been farming through pillaging but the developers missed the chance to incorporate looting chance in the class, also pillaging doesn’t seem to work in equipment drops as I have noticed when I grinded my corsair to 360 in HG. The lack of autoswap for dagger and pistol can cause an issue to some.

Possible suggestions:

  • Pillaging should work in new equipments too. (improves farming class selling point)
  • Jolly roger boost looting chance (improves farming class selling point)
  • Boost movement speed for every succesful pillaging. (improves farming class selling point)
  • Increase pillage chance for every corsair in the party and in same map doesn’t need to be in proximity (encourages party farm)
  • C3 passive: extortion: % chance to double drop from bosses and elite monsters for the party
    (increase C3 appeal)
#6

So what’s going on with fencer? Read a few posts saying fencer-nobi is gonna get really strong? Why is that?

I’ve never played fencer before, so here is my attempted build: sword3-pelt1-corsair1-fencer3-shinobi, 100-150 DEX, rest STR. Maybe switch pelt and corsair to barbarian2 instead? Please give some suggestions and feedback. Thanks a bunch.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#111138eeed.3f4a5f85.3541.15243175.3f441a618595b5.552515

#7

Basically Shinobi will copy skills from Fencer c1/c2/c3(respectively Sept Etoiles/Attaque Composee/Flash) making it probably the best Fencer (or even Shinobi) build probably surpassing Murmillo, since Cassis Crista attributes won’t affect clones anymore.
All those skills have high damage and more than 1 OH, and if you follow the standard SW3>HL2 build you also have Double Slash/Crown/Moulinet/Kunai too.

#8

Oh ok. Wow is shinobi like, a staple in swordsman build? Other than spear users (dragoon and lancer), pretty much every build is better with shinobi.

#9

The only thing that fencer dont have would be a good pierce debuff…

Im not sure if Hl2 is even needed.
Barb c2 would make more use out of Epee.

But meta gona be sw3hl2 anyway.

#11

About that, I tested Coquille a LOT against a variety of monsters, and it just doesn’t seen be working, is it a bug or something?

#12

It should ignore the defense with pierce atacks.
My new fencer is just lvl 260 now so i couldnt test it on mobs that are worth it Chmode/ Wb.

#13

Correct me if i’m wrong, but cassis crista never affected clones.

#14

We also tested it against players and doesn’t seem to work. Assuming that it gets fixed, it will be good with hexen , sept and kunai.

#15

Yes it did affect clones.

#16

I liked that skill :neutral_face:

and for the record I totally forgot the “staby” skill

hope it’s a skill worth killing with :3

#17

Cassis crista never buffed clone damage.

Just tested shinobi and the clone damage is way more… bad with my gear on ktest compared to before change, i expected to be lower but not that much lower. I understand why they put more skills now.

#18

Are you talking about ktest or itos?

#19

Itos, cassis crista never increased clone damage.

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#20

Thanks =) 20dmgclones20

#21

why not hl2 barb2? Doppel slash skills surely benefit from cleave debuff, right?