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Build: Doppelsoeldner 2h sword (PvE only)

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hello guys,

I’m playing with a doppel lv220, and i’m in doubt about the final build. I want to play only PvE (I don’t like PvP and few of friends are playing ToS right now to play GvG).

So, I think in the following build:

Any points:

1 - I chose Peltasta at rank 2 to help me in leveling and may act as off tank if needed. I’m playing in that way until the moment. I know that don’t tanking Highlander c1 will decrease my critical damage, but the choice was made, and I preferred choose utility instead damage.

2 - I chose Frenzy instead Warcry to help me to kill the bosses, but I don’t know if it was a good choice. Any suggestion?

3 - As doppel, I’ll take Deeds of Valor lv9 to refresh stacks and don’t need to take more damage (lv220+ hits hurt a lot).

4 - Finally, my stats will be distributed as follows: Str 3/ Con 1/ Dex 1.
At lv280: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/stat-calculator/build/h7exikhug7/

I’ll abuse the critical rate bonus in ekips, weapon and green gem (Sissel bracelet + 2 lv6 green gems = 101 critical rate; + bonus from hair enchantment).

Any suggestions for my build?

#2

Not sure if you’ve seen this: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/to39uorwoy/

pretty much your build with explanations on why he chose which skills. Some discrepancies are addressed in the comments.

#3

  1. going peltasta alway good for pve build, also highlander crit damage not gonna give you much (even 2 glad band and magi 2hand will only give you around 500 crit dmg)

  2. having both skill is better choice lv 3 warcry give you 170 dmg so invest in thats is alway good choice (Ktos balance patch also buff both skill)

  3. hmm not sure what you mean but DOV is not carry out stack when you recast so even you cast before its end you gonna need to get hit again and again

  4. no comment here since your distribute is ok and viable in pve

Suggestion

Barbarian C3

  • Pouncing is really good skill for bossing/pvp at least put 1 point to its

Doppel c2 skill

  • you better max Redel its alot better than zucken since its 5 hit and dont need shock for extra

  • better leave zucken at lv 1 or 2 since sp cast is too much when you lv its up (seriously 180 sp at lv5 is ridiculous)

#4

Thank you KnightXIII!!!

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3. hmm not sure what you mean but DOV is not carry out stack when you recast so even you cast before its end you gonna need to get hit again and again
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I thought they accumulate forever, better put it lv8 so.

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having both skill is better choice lv 3 warcry give you 170 dmg so invest in thats is alway good choice (Ktos balance patch also buff both skill)
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I think about to reset the skills in the future, I’ll take a few points from cleave or chopper and put in warcry.

About the doppel skills, I still do not distribute, then I will consider your suggestions.

#5

Thank you, I had not seen. Well, he did the 3:1 ratio Str:con, but said that dex is useless. Half the people say it, half say it’s viable. I don’t know who to trust … :frowning:

#6

just trust yourself then lol

if you like dodge and crit dex is ok

str give you alittle more dmg overall but dex give you acc/evade which really useful for pve/pvp

well no matter what you go for dex or str sword man currently not good for ET/pvp so just go what you want

[my current stat is 315 str 80 vit 115 dex and i plan to invest in dex til max lv]

#7

Don’t try to put Crit rate if your build is not based on crit rate. You won’t crit at all on mobs 260-280 with 100-200 crit rate.

When you say bosses, do you mean World bosses? If so, don’t even try, swordman can’t compete with Ranger3Fletcher3 and Wiz3Ele3 bosses.

Warcry is way better than Frenzy, considering that you get 30 physical attack per mob up to 300 Physical attack (10 mobs) and you reduce your opponents defense to -30.

About Deeds of Valor. Be careful, It’s a great skill with great risk on it, specially at lvl 10 and so. Since you’re almost full STR you’ll take all the heat from mobs, and they HURT. If you don’t reach at least 25k-30k hp you’ll most likely die in no time.

About offensive skills in general, you don’t need to max them at all to get decent damage, is just Cleave, that gets that sweet bonus damage from stunned mobs that needs to be maxed. The real damage comes from attributes.

gl

#8

No offense bro you build isn’t very good. No warcry…at all? And your points are ridiculously out of proportion.

Here’s a better build you should check out.

#9

Out of proportion? As I could see, you did 3:1 str con, I just made this doppel months before read your guide, and put 3:1 str:con and a little dex (actually 60 dex), meaning to improve dex to 100 (but not sure that) so I think you being controversial.

Really, now I can see tha warcry is better than Frenzy, so I’ll fix it. As for other skills, I did not see anything very different, since I do not intend to have potential in PvP with this char.

In you “guide”, you also say, like other reviews I read, that DoV accumulates stacks, and as I could see here in this post, is not true. I think you should fix it, to not put others in doubt.

Thanks for suggestions.

#10

Well, now I’m with 60 dex , so I think is better to put the others stats points in con to survive, right? Maybe in future I’ll put more points in dex. I’m praying to a status balancing in future.

Ty

#11

I think I’ll improve con now and maybe in future put some dex points.

Ty

#12

DoV does accumulate stacks… each time you get hit you get a stack.

Also yeah, the guide post is outdated. You gotta click the link for a more updated version.

And must max frenzy and warcry.