I’m new in game. Just reached 65 lvl, and lvling cleric3. My goal was to make it dex pala, like in this build link but seems like this build is too old.
Can you please advise what is the best option for cleric3 to go next?
Support/dps doesnt matter actually. And what stats is better for me.
Thanks in advance, will apreciate good advise:)
well yes i was aiming for cleric3 pala3. dex/str build. but i dont know if this build is any good now. and looking for some other options to go. maybe druid or monk. stats and skills is not a problem anyway, i can reset it as far as i know. so, just need some advise as i said in previous message=)
Most people here would say that going c3 cleric is going overboard.
Monks outclassed paladin in terms of dps. Support-role wise, paladin wins against monks.
Now, if you want less supportive capabilities but a lot of physical firepower, take the monk path. More supportive abilities but not much firepower, take paladin
Thanks!
But a little more questions I have, if you don’t mind:)
For party who is better monk or Pala? Actually I don’t know what I will do in late game but think about some party play.
Str/Dec for both Pala and monk? What proportion? 2/1?
I’d say if you don’t mind restarting you should remake your char and not take Cleric C3, since it’s kinda of a waste imo, better remake it now that you’re low lvl than regretting later on into the game.
cleric3 paladin3 is quite an insane healing build due to heal tiles/resto and barrier.
If you are going from STR/DEX paladin in order to do melee damage I would recommend going at least priest 2 for bless/sac to start as it is your best damaging option early on.
You may want to get cleric to circle 2 as well, since paladin builds are more support-oriented.
For example
cleric1 -> priest2 -> paladin2 -> cleric2 -> paladin3
or if you want one of the new rank7s you could just get priest1 for blessing and res.
So, cleric 3 is not good at all?
Didn’t understand about insane healing, can you please tell what you mean?
And we’ll OK. If I go as support: cleric1>priest1>cleric2>paladin3
What stats I should aiming for?
For solo lvling is it better Str/dex? Or it is not a problem to lvl with int/spr/con?
Just want to make good character that will work.
There’s not a problem with INT vsSTR builds. You just got to pick one.
STR/DEX are Monk and Paladin, most of the rest are INT builds.
For buffing, I prefer Priest2 than Cleric2. I’ve seen Cleric2 as heal machine. I don’t wanna say Priest are better team player but they got more work to do for the team than Cleric. (Sacrament, Blessing, Revive, Mass Heal, Monstrance)
Priest1’s blessing goes a long way though, and you should check out Paladin builds out there too - at least if you want to go to Paladin, you want to go all the way to Paladin3.
Remember there are no wrong builds for this game - there are only less effective builds.
Thanks for your opinions guys. As for myself I will actually try cleric3>paladin3 and go for int. It seems interesting:)
And if we speak about int, what proportions of int/spr/con should it be?
I would recommend being very conservative with spr and con. You will need tons of int with this build since your only means of damage outside of parties will be offensive heal and cure, until you hit paladin.
Smite is physical damage so it will not scale with your magic attack. I will have to defer to experienced paladins as far as other things since i did not go all the way down the paladin tree in beta.
Here is a little bit of testing.
Reached 81lvl, just got paladin 1.
What can i say about cleric 3 and max int (max INT - it is about 130 INT now - and a little of points in SPR and CON < 10 points spent in each): this build works well as party healer. Yesterday i saw my heals at about 1,5k, self buff only, and it is 16 squares for cast!
As well farming monsters with heal and cure works good too, flying monsters is kinda pain, but they mostly have not too much HP, so it is Deprotected zone+AA. It takes some time, but they die.
Quest bosses is not a problem too.
Ofc i already have some equip with +INT (about +15-20). But seems like type of equipment for this build is cloth, because only there seems to be +INT stat.
I think that i should make some changes in skill build. Main thing is that divine might should be rank 1, because further training of it gain no effect (as i see it). And spend this points in cure, because it is really strong attack skill based on INT.
What do you think about Guardian saint skill? Actually i spent 0 point in current build in it and dont quite understand how it works, and is it worth of spending some points.
And i think about the weapon i should use, is it blunt or sword or even some magic attack main, what do you think?
Aw if you went max INT yeah, you should’ve maxed Cure - that’ll be a really good attacking skill to help you level to pally.
However, you’re a pally now. If you want to go Paladin3, you better start increasing STR, because Smite will be your main spammable attack, and it scales off STR. (Better start investing on all those fancy attributes for pally skills too!)
On Guardian Saint, I haven’t seen any up-to-date info.
For weapons basically this is how it works. You want to carry all three types of weapons depending on enemy type, to get damage bonus and avoid damage penalty.
Blunt: Any good mace, maybe Toy Hammer
Sword: Any good sword; Golden Falchion can last you to like lv170, if you use magic skills (not sure which one is considered magic attacks), you can use Wizard Blade
Pierce: Clerics have one main choice - Spiked Mace
Offhand: Arde Dagger There’s just not much better ones at your level
That being said, as a Priest3 Monk wannabe, I just carry whatever crap I can get for cheap, I’m still saving money the only thing I have from the above list is just Spiked Mace lol
You want a decent amount of CON - 10 is not going to keep you alive for too long at later levels. Too bad stat reset pots aren’t available in the TP market
Divine Might and Guardian Saint definitely are two skills that are out from Cleric3, and Divine Might nerf is why Cleric3 fell out of favor
Thanks for your reply, interesting experience:)
Arde dagger seems to be good thing, but it’s cost is too high for me, actually dont know how to grind such amount of silver.
Right now using blunt+shield. And going to buy some sword, to use it with deprotected zone+enchnce for sword attack. Seems like it will be a good option.
About stats. Ok, now i have 120 INT. As i understand your advise, from now on i should stop raising INT and go for CON+STR. Well, it is a thing to think about. What proportion of it do you think will work good? 2STR:1CON?
And stat reset potion is available at TP shop;) Playing at Telsiai
Really, I’ll just be honest with you. I go to the market and buy <5k swords and maces. For Arde Dagger, if you don’t have money (like me, haha), just keep grinding and when you’re level 90, spam the lv90 dungeon and hope that it drops an Arde Dagger for you.
Wait a tic - stat reset potion is now available?! Sorry for the outdated info It wasn’t there last time I checked - only the skill reset…
EDIT: Oh it’s not available yet - only once for $50
CON isn’t a major stat - just enough to keep yourself alive. I’ve seen some say that 50CON on lv200 is good enough - as long as you can heal yourself to stay alive (esp because heal is %)
Small update.
Still lvling my pala, 95 now. And it feels pretty good to play.
I cleared mausoleum at 83lvl solo.
Well, it takes some time to understand how to play this character solo, but it’s pretty fun and safe. The main damage skill while you getting paladin ofc is Heal, you have 15-16 squares, second is Cure. So max INT shines here.
When you get to paladin it’s become easier to kill monsters because of smite. Spend at least 2 points first to it, even without STR it’s damage is very good (but actuaaly it is not clear what primary stat for this skill). Smite is very usefull too because of it short cooldown.
So in this build we have not so much skills to use, but it’s not a problem at all, it is a pro.
For solo lvling dont forget to buff sacrament in town with it your low basic atk will be good enough.
In party just buff all you have > remove damage from heal in dungeons and cast it at pull once and secont time according to situation > smash some skulls with smite.
People quickly dismiss the idea of going Cleric C3… sigh Really, all you need is int and a little bit of Restoration (like, lvl 5, with attribute) and you’re good.
Problem is a lot of people just reverberate crap when it comes to C3.
The deal with C3 cleric is that in a support build with other classes healing skills (priest) where C3 Cleric is considered “overboard” in addition to C3 Priest.
Two common support builds have been C3 priest, C2 Cleric, Krivis instead of C3 Cleric, and then plague.
Then the other has Chaplain instead of Krivis. A couple of other good ones have Diev involved.
Note the amount of healing with C3 priest, C2 cleric, Krivis/Chaplain AND plague doctor, is far above C3 Cleric alone. If you’re not dedicating that much to support, then C3 Cleric is just fine and you’ll get great usage out of its support abilities.