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[Build Analysis] My first Swordsman

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

Hello everyone!

I decided to create a swordsman based character but, a few questions popped up while designing it’s build and i was hoping you guys could help me out.

I should point out that i know absolute nothing about swordsman so it’s very likely that my build is complete garbage. Also i always go for fun rather than power so it’s not necessary to sacrifice a class or skill just to optimize damage. And on top of that i picked all skills based on their descriptions.

This is the build i just designed, focusing on PvE only:

I understand that some skills requires me to equip certain weapons and that’s why i picked skills that allow me to use one handed spears and a shield or have no equipment requirements at all.

Questions:

1 - Is this build remotely viable? If nothing works together, fun is out of the table.

2 - What can i do to improve it without changing it too much?

3 - All non-Cataphract skills i picked can be used while mounted?

Feel free to throw some tips on how to play too. Again, i have zero knowledge on swordsman so please, be nice.

Thanks for reading!

#2

max pain barrier, bash only lvl 3, u dont need thrust.
its viable
u could try swordsman c3 instead of peltast>hoplite
and get 1 point to impaler

#3

Good stuff. Honestly, on swordsman, i just picked random ■■■■ hoping for the best.

Swordsman C3 is good for PvE? I heard someone saying that C3 is, like, PvP oriented stuff.

One point on Impaler, got it. Should i remove one point from Trot?

#4

swordsman c3 is more PVP focused, u couls get peltasta c2 instead of hoplite but thats ur choice

remove it from earth wave

#5

Ranks 2 and 3 are tough decisions and i still don’t know if it’s possible to use non-Cataphract skills while mounted.

Point removed from Earth Wave for Impaler.

#6

IMO cata3 is optimized for PVP because of high mobility, if you want to go pure PVE I think Swordman>Peltasta>Hoplite C3>Doppel>Dragoon with full/high STR is better.
Hoplite C3 has a spammable AOE Spear Throw with 0 CD, Finestra buff that increase crit rate, and Stabbing + Pierce as a burst damage against bosses.

#7

I guess you still need hoplite to use 1H spears with shield to use cataphract and peltasta skills.

for most, its possible, as long as you have the right weapon and the skill doesnt jump or something.

#8

I chose Cataphract because i want to be able to mount.

As i said before, i’m not a competitive player and i just want to have fun. Cataphract might not be optimized for PvE but at least does decent damage right?

@fersato666 As for the mounted skills, i watched a video on youtube a few minutes ago and the guy picked the exact same classes that are on my build with a few different skills. He showcased the character a little bit and it went just like in my head, the classes and skills have great synergy and the gameplay flows smoothly.

#9

I did cata for that too :smiley: it was fun as hell, but,
My mistake was not to pick hoplite. So i had to change weapons (shield&sword/spear) depending if was a boss, if i was going support or something.

about your skills, swordy attacks are useless. go for the buffs.

#10

Here is an updated version of the build. I compiled all the information i got from my research today, incluiding videos, and this is the result.

Even the stats have changed, i was going for Str and Con, now i’m going for Str and Dex.

About Swordsman skills: I heard Concentrate is pretty bad and that’s why i didn’t pick it, is this information accurate? And that’s why i got Bash on 5.

#11

get bash lvl 3, concentrate 5, pain 5, gung-ho the rest
get guardian lvl 1 and u are good to go

#12

Okay, let’s begin.

First remark - HopliteC1 sucks. It has no Lunge, it has no Spear Throw, Pierce is weak at this point, Finestra boosts Crit Rate only a little. Your only good skill is Stabbing.
As above was said, you can make a real mobile tanker. Go with Pelta2, but invest only three points in High Guard to get it’s attributes.

Second remark - Bash to level 3, Pain barrier can be lowered to 2-3. Rest dump in Concentration.

Third remark about Peltasta in addition to said above - one point in Guardian to get Evasion attribute. Rim Blow 4\5.

Cataphract points distribution is magnificent. Good job.

If you want Gae, then go PvP. If you like PvE more, than go Dragon Soar.

#13

@Autentist and @Lenny

Thank you guys so much for your input!

I went Hoplite C1 just for Finestra and Stabbing. Stabbing looks like a badass skill, i can already imagine myself going like: AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!! while pressing the button repeateadly to get more hits xD

Guardian and Gung Ho do not work together so, no Gung Ho?

I’m not sure how i managed to get everything right on Cataphract, that never happens, there’s something supernatural happening here, for sure.

Dragon Soar it is.

#14

id get swrodsman c3 and dont need dragon soar
actually i’m going for swordsman c3 =)

#15

  • Swordsman
    For PVE don’t put point too much at pain barrier
    Bash level 3
    Gungho Max
    Concentrate Min level 2 for 4hit Only ( Tosbase description wrong )
    You need Concentrate coz Cata & Dragon has many multihit skill
    add damage from skill not too good but the attribute it’s, give +100 add damage
    Every multihit skill just take 1 hit count even it hit more than 1.
    Also idk it’s a bug or not, in kTOS i’ve Cata and i bought pardoner blessing, when it’s stack with concentrate, even the hit count from concentrate already gone the buff still active.
    With sacrament + carfrisun set, concentrate can give +300 add damage.

  • Pelasta
    Put 1 point on Guardian.

The rest is fine
about Hoplite finestra it’s a very good buff, the only buff that give 3 stats but only -1 stas.
Also if you don’t active the splash attribute +3 AOE ratio ( +6s cd )
You can keep the buff permanent even at level 5 with this spear

Nope you can use other weapon + shield for pelasta skills
also if you want to use 1hd spear, you can when you get to Dragoon

#16

Thank you for your input! I’ll be using 1H Spear and Shield.

I’m still confused on why do i need Gung Ho and Guardian if they can’t be active at the same time. Should i use them on different situations or what?

#17

indeed.
if you max gung ho attribute it’ll give you -50 defense
i assume you’ll be a tank sometimes in dungeon coz you get pelasta.
so when you dying coz -50 def you can switch to guardian to cancel gungho
also guardian give +18% evasion good for tanking and maybe at pvp.

#18

And this is the only skill, that will benefit you on Hoplite1.
Pelta2 will give you: Swashbuckling 10, High Guard with 250% Umbo and Rim Multiplier for tanking purposes, more damage from Umbo and Rim overall.

No, use them both, switch according to situations. For defence use Guardian, for attack use Gung Ho.

#19

That makes sense and it’s a good way to help the healer as well. Sometimes healers can’t get to you in time due to lag, being harassed by monsters or because they’re attacking themselves, so get Defense back and more Evasion will buy us some time to sort things out.

@Autentist
I’m considering PeltastaC2, but, Stabbing looks so sick! I’m actually thinking very hard about it just because of that!

#20

Look man, if you want Stabbing that much, then go Hoplite all the way, but drop Cataphract.

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