There’s bad behavior in every region. It just sort of gets worse when you mix the regions. There’s going to be alot of stereotyping and racism as a result of that. People are going to get angry when someone speaks in a non English language in a public chat.
I want to play with all kind and nice people. Culture shock may occur few times but if we love each other and have tolerance, that wont be a problem. Well, I mean with non toxic players though.
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Diversity is what makes MMOS FUN.
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disable world chat and open region chat
Well…In MMO’s you are bound to see different people, from different countries, with different languages, with different backgrounds. For me that is the best part of MMO’s and that is what keep me in this game genre for so long. I understand ping can be a crucial factor in gameplay, but when servers like this appear we have a chance to shoot down physical borders and learn a lot about other cultures.
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Learn to accept people different from you. If you don’t like someone, just ignore him. I can guarantee you’d have a hell of a time getting to know people from a different culture. That’s how we broaden our understanding of the world, not by just sticking with the kind of person we’re familiar with.
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I’ve never seen someone say anything was too diverse other than as a cover for racism.Which is what this sounds like,with the way you talk about it.
This version of Tree of Savior has the word international in it.Do you actually know what that means? I don’t think you do.
Say what you want,but what you want from this game and what it’s actually going to be like are two very different things.Consider waiting for an EU server,or a region exclusive game.
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Been in LoL EuNE, EuW and NA, all are as cancerous as they can be, they are moba’s though, mobas baits cancer. Finding nice people in any moba is something i find to be very rare.
One mistake? Worse “character name of the server”
^Last time that happened to me was in NA
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Diversity itself never caused problems. It’s people who slander that’s the problem. Even if you remove diversity by going local, people would still split into some kind of group and either blow their own trumpet or throw dirt at others. Some don’t even belong to a group and simply berate another group for attention or whatever insensible reason they have.
It’s not diversity that causes the trouble, it’s just people who have nothing better to do.
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So you dont mean the people, but everything they are… thats reassuring then cause at first your sentence seemed only racist, now it seems like its a page from a fascist guide book.
I have played along with the cream of the stereotypes from russians to brazilians. I had gamed together with gypsies, with jews, with people from frikin south africa.
Do you know what i can tell you? Trolls and frustrating people exist everywhere, and while some nations may have more of them than others, it fundamentally does not matter who is playing from where, because inside a game we are not nations, cultures, ethnic groups. We are gamers.
If i really wanted to, i could see a moot point in what you are trying to say, but i dont even want to do that. No, you do not have to like them. Nobody said that. However, starting fascist threads on forums on how you prefer secularism over multiculturalism INSIDE AN MMO is first of all racist and second: its mentally unhinged.
If the game matters less to you than the fact of who are playing it, you are not a gamer. In fact, i have no idea what the hell you have lost in here.
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I played iRO. And needless to say it was a completely opposite experience of the one you seem to of had.
This might shock you, but a lot of people don’t even consider the possibility that the people they are interacting with on the net might be children.
Indeed it is. But you wont really get different results with/without a region lock. The only real difference there would be is a potential language barier. Which will be there regardless for any EU region server.
Im not sure how you can claim a long time internet usage when you say this. Surely you realise this is EXACTLY what internet interaction is like?
Or even RL interaction for that matter.
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I’m approaching 30 and I’ve found that I make a general assumption that I’m probably older than most people I play games with. It’s funny though, when I meet older people they’re often the more memorable. I remember a couple in their late 50’s, one lived in Washington state and the other in Canada and he would drive across the border every weekend when she would cook tacos.
Why would people complain that there isn’t a specific NA version when the servers ARE hosted in NA? That makes no sense. Also I disagree with your statement of “this is always referred to as the international version”. In absolutely no case what-so-ever is it remotely obvious that this game is an ‘international’ version, especially if you’ve only found it on Steam, regardless of whether or not you agree.
EU servers are worse for the very reason OP says.
All these random Germans, French, Russians, whatever-the-the-rest-are-ians flood the chat with random language stuff - and make all these crappy jokes.
Don’t worry we hate your jokes even more and we don’t want to see Portuguese and Spanish in our chats either (because we don’t understand those languages). But hey thanks for showing us how xenophobic and racist you are!
Learn to accept people different from you. If you don’t like someone, just ignore him. I can guarantee you’d have a hell of a time getting to know people from a different culture. That’s how we broaden our understanding of the world, not by just sticking with the kind of person we’re familiar with.
This has nothing to do with my topic. There are various cultural, geographical and localised issues to face if we don’t get an EU server. Telling us to just ‘tolerate’ each other is a really lazy and narrow minded mentality and if that is your only rebuttal then that’s not remotely a good enough reason for us to not have an EU server.
I’ve never seen someone say anything was too diverse other than as a cover for racism.Which is what this sounds like,with the way you talk about it.
This version of Tree of Savior has the word international in it.Do you actually know what that means? I don’t think you do.
Say what you want,but what you want from this game and what it’s actually going to be like are two very different things.Consider waiting for an EU server,or a region exclusive game.
I am waiting for an EU server. Also it seems that you didn’t remotely read any of the posts above your own. The amount of times that this game has been referred to as an ‘international’ version is few and far in between, just as it hasn’t very well been advertised as much. Practically everyone is expecting an EU server hence all the backlash and complaining from EU residents.
If the game matters less to you than the fact of who are playing it, you are not a gamer. In fact, i have no idea what the hell you have lost in here.
Spare me your insipid immature melodrama which is really just your opinion vs. mine. I told you the first time that I couldn’t care less what you think of me. Your attitude in the forums here is toxic and pathetic and I don’t know why you insist on posting constant tripe and procrastinating at every given opportunity. No one seriously cares about your rants.
You wont really get different results with/without a region lock. The only real difference there would be is a potential language barier. Which will be there regardless for any EU region server.
That’s only your opinion. Region locks would definitely prevent a lot of possible issues. Also just because in most cases we’re all thrown in here on the internet together doesn’t mean that it’s remotely a good thing and that we should be all playing MMORPGs together. Entirely international games do not work. Please tell me one game, except for Albion Online (which is entirely different to ToS) and tell me how it works that everyone plays on the same server together. Pro tip: It doesn’t, it’s a god-awful mess.
I could not agree more. I am Brazilian and I am very aware of Fame Our players have around the world, and unfortunately I can not say it is not deserved. But this can not be generalized , there are bad players everywhere. I bought the pack founders and want to play on the international server of steam despite the news that Brazil will have their own servers . I’ll do it because I had bad experiences playing games managed by partner IMC in Brazil. Also always amuses me to interact with people from other countries and helps me train my English.
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pretty much.
It’s just the world chat issues with them i guess.
Not entirely. I would be lying if I said that I had a ton of experience with Brazilian players in games but sadly the experience I have had has not been positive. For the most part I can say that Brazilian players are very good at games. However from what I’ve seen, I came to the conclusion that they care little (if at all) about other people if they are not also Brazilian (or speak Portuguese).
It also seems that many players distinguish themselves with the ‘BR’ tag somewhere in their name as to help others discern who is from Brazil and who isn’t. In at least 2 of the games I played, you couldn’t group with Brazilian players if you didn’t have that BR tag in your name and if you didn’t speak Portuguese.
But this isn’t the point. It’s true that there are undesirables from every country, including my own. But more servers gives us more chance of peace and more choices which is only a good thing.
NA, just like the EU is a pretty big place. West Coast vs East Coast still has a pretty noticable ping difference. Even more so for SEA players that dont care about regional but would still like to play with decent ping.
(yeah I know, there’s more in this world then NA and EU, shocking isnt it?)
It does, because due to EUs nature (many different countries) you will still face those issues if there’s just a single EU server.
I’m not sure what EU country you are from, but I hope you are aware that there are many other EU countries in the EU, most of which have different cultures and languages being used.
No, that is a fact. I honestly question if you know what the EU is.
I would understand if someone in the US would try to use your argument, because for them a NA only region lock would indeed cut down on the language and cultural issues. But for the EU it doesnt matter, WE still have those issues anyway.
How on earth you can even argue this as a EU player is beyond me.
You better stay playing LAN games, boy.
You’re the kind of person which is not supposed to play together.
I understand the OP’s concern, but this thread is deviating from it rather quickly and I’m afraid I need to close it.
Please send me a PM if you have concerns regarding the issues brought up in this thread.
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