Able to provide screenshot to show lvl 10 Spear Lunge doubles the dmg of Stabbing or other Pierce skills?
Currently, using only lvl 1 Spear Lunge n did notice that it does get resisted at times.
I’d really like to know that for sure as well. I don’t have that much experience on high level WBs, so I haven’t seen spear lunge being resisted thus far. Also regarding Spear level lunge’s debuff icnreasing according to skill level, if anyone had the chance to test it out and post some pics/videos it’d be really appreciated.
or you get a healer. You aren’t going to solo a world boss. Nor will you get a cube soloing by yourself (depending on how strong you are)
Some mobs have decent SPR or have pain barrier that resist not only spear lunge, but also things like armor break, cross guard stagger, etc. This is regardless of spear lunge level and spear lunge stays as a +70% T3 modifier at all levels. You can check the big damage formula thread for that info. I personally haven’t seen any Demon Lords resist my spear lunge, but if you check at workshop, the blue nukas there can resist your debuffs decently when they got pain barrier on.
The part that you conveniently cut off is the more important reason to invest in evasion
Also idk being a swordsman assuming your intention is to grab and hold aggro unless you have a healer with stone skin in my experience I still sometimes cut survivability close even with the evasion cap (though I don’t have very many points invested in con, but if your aim is competitive DPS the less con you have the better assuming you have enough to never die). So I would assume this is a lot more difficult without evasion as well as con unless you always have a priest 3 as your healer
Of course, that big paragraph seriously varies from world boss to world boss as well. Like marnox and rexipher it really isn’t too much of an issue but for like mirtis and helga evasion helps so much because you can just never move even during the spinning lasers and fire ball things
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another thing, you posted r8 pictures and the dragoon was a cataprach not even hoplita… and dude c’mon … venier will work best against dullahan considering he use a ghost armor but a demon and dark property?.
It’s not a big deal to just have an archer in your party turn swift step share on so you can hit the evasion cap anyway. Or monstrance/haste/agility what have you.
afaik Dagger mastery which you can get from corsair C1 means you do 12.5% more damage from behind just for having a dagger equipped so having aggro isn’t ideal.
You know there’s two different dragoons in each screenshot right? One of them is a cata, the other isn’t. Same result. Also I hope you know that holy property attack is a pretty tiny boost. It’s essentially almost additive just like concentrate, except slightly more. They’re probably getting quite a bit less than 1k damage per line with that holy property attack. The sheer weapon damage two handed spears have over something like venier far outclasses holy property attack as far as raw damage is concerned.
Some people will disagree with that. I personally like swift step attribute turned on, but most people hate it (such as the other people in your party) because of the buff slot it takes up. The evasion would likely only be super useful to the person who has aggro, and just a waste of a buff slot to everyone else in your party. Also since it increases evasion by a % (same with monstrance, etc) you would need some base stats to work with for it to be meaningful.
As far as that dagger damage is concerned, I’ve read (but this is something I don’t actually know) it only applies to dagger auto attacks and/or skills that take advantage of dagger, so your options for that are pretty limited, and if you’re the one with aggro, you aren’t going to be able to attack from behind anyway
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but change you skill property attacks, it doesn’t add an extra line like concentrate, try to test it with your fencer in maven or storage and pick grynas with a random mob, but there’s, still impressed to see fencer shine at r3, i may reroll one after finishing my doppel and make a proper dps fencer (not a rode fencer).
PD: and the corsair passive is a you stated, is applied to the dagger attacks, may be well used with hexen or DWA, but with a fencer imo isn’t worth.
idk I think it effects everything as long as a dagger is equipped.
Concentrate doesn’t add an extra line tho (unless I’m misunderstanding what you are saying)
It’s not that simple. First of all, you’re hitting a clothe armor type, which you will do less damage when you’re hitting with pierce… Your screenshot doesn’t prove anything unless you post the stats when you were doing your tests.
i was wrong in there… i mean add a flat value, not an extra line like sacrament, but venier doesn’t add an extra line of dmg.
wtf?, it was in the same moment, cloth type just reduce my base property dmg to certain%, with lunge i just increase that amount, stats doesn’t matter at all at that moment (didn’t change nothing, the same gear).
and the biggest plus is that doesn’t get resisted at lvl10.
Skill wise it’s obviously Doppel. (current)
regardless of Boss Armor type, Element or Race.
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reason is DoV, which doubles your damage.
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Because cleave debuff exist, the only skill the adds 50% damage to slash type, wherein fencer nor dragoon benefits.
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Because Doppel skills are all multi-hit. which greatly benefits from added damage (blessing, sacrament, enchant fire, contentrate, you name it) let alone a 25-hit cyclone with +533 blessing damage =13325 damage
not sure about R8 class, haven’t visit it yet since they’re still adjusting stuffs.
Yeah and it is funny you are the guy who said dov is useless, how ironic
DoV is useless if your argument is STR y DEX,
Future proof wise, it’s not suggested to have. unless some miraculous mechanic/gear are release to compensate on zero defense play.
Some KR vid shows non-DOV build doing 30-35K crit damages, while DoV builds tend to go as far as 45 - 50k.
not gonna trade my defense for some 15K damage, while seeing how R8 raises on power. 15k will be nothing for R9-R10. not to mention how 330 world boss hits like a truck for 15-20k. R.I.P Defenseless plays.
Didn’t they just add an attribute for hoplite 3? Increase damage on boss or something?
Medium enemies when using one handed spears.
DoV can’t be useless because it’s not a flat number. If R8+ skills bring more damage, more relevant DoV becomes. Having 0 pDef is bad (of course) but it just means that you shouldn’t cast DoV in every/any situation. It has no downside against magical mobs and very little if you’re able to stack it and then prevent further damage for some time. One example that comes to my mind is using Lapasape Mushroom and then getting Ausrine buff.
The same applies to DPE. Cyclone, on the other hand, will become less useful if only circle is taken in Doppel class.