Tree of Savior Forum

Beginners pack still not arrived?

Man you guys are doing a horrible job, the tp packs were announced last week still not out yet. I think iTOS is the only MMO that managed to miss every single one of launch dates whether its founders launch, f2p launch or tp packs. To the point where you guys are afraid put dates on announcements, just a vague “later next week” which you guys can easily go over again. And announcements and updates are infrequent and it just seems that YOU DONT CARE. Plus its incredibly stupid how you guys do not have a way to purchase TP, i am currently stuck on 2 characters because i have no tp to create a new character. WHY CANT YOU TAKE MY MONEY?

1000 ways to make this game great and still ■■■■■■ it up.

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lol technically they did the best to be the worst… not easy job tho…

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I agree they ■■■■■■ up the tp so hard… I don’t understand why imc has no statements regarding this

/feelsbadman

Because they’re waiting on Steam to actually allow them to set up the packs and prices. So we’re playing the waiting game with Valve right now, the only thing you can blame IMC is for not doing it sooner, but there’d still be a waiting time.

The Valve approval process is fairly quick as has been shown by pretty much every other MMORPG that has purchasable items through steam. I’ve only ever seen a handful of developers run into issue with pushing paid content on time. It’s a very rare occurrence. On top of that, they could simply implement purchasable TP within the game itself bypassing steam all together. As some MMORPG’s also do. This is definitey looking more like IMC being at fault & not Valve.

Its possible that Steam rejected the IMC TP idea.
One, It uses DLC to sell TP packs, which are one time only buys on Steam. This means they would have to supply several different packs and then rotate them out with newer ones every quarter. This is a roundabout way of selling TP to players that Steam may not like.
Two, Steam may not want to allow the TP sales after the poor reviews and may have iToS on Under Review status.
Three, Steam flat out denied it. Which means IMC is now stuck with designing their own TP sales system either in-game or via web that they have no current structure for atm. Designing one that wont be abused and works will take time. Time they are not making money.

No word from IMC may mean they are in trouble. Pure speculation, but if the business end is seeing no profit gain while they waste their prime sales time(MMOs make most of their sales profit within first 90 days of release) they may start backing out or try to sell iToS to another company.

Or, Steam wants them to modify the TP DLC packs idea before they approve it. Which means they are bouncing back and forth and this is what’s taking all this time. This is the most hopeful possibility.

Time will tell.

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Well, the beginner pack is supposed to be one time only anyway afaik. They should have that up soon i hope.

lol do they even do that? I seriously doubt this is the case.

I think they are planning to sell TP without using steam because of all the exploits from selling through steam. At least that is what i would do.

Watch as soon as they start selling TP people will be like “why you sell tp when servers are bad? cash grab waaahhh all you want is money”

I just hope people don’t end up exploiting the packages like what apparently happened with the founders packs.

They want to sell DLC for each server with different prices (regions) through steam. Steam can’t do that, for steam there is only one game, they can’t do ■■■■ about different servers because they are just options inside the game. That is my guess.

Why they don’t open a inside store like the others games with direct sale. Why to lose money to steam?

This is the first time in my life in a videogames i’m trying to throw money at something and I can’t, when it’s always the opposite. It’s kinda hilarious.

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TP will be sold another type of way without steam.

Packages from IMC will be sold by steam, which is a one time purchase for each account.

A future announcement will be posted. Thanks.

Oh, thats a 100% assurance. People will complain about anything. I’ve even seen boards where people complain about nothing to complain about, “Boring”“Boards are dead”…

People issues.

It’s a legit problem so people complain. A lot of people experience these problems and imc just don’t give a fuk

How is wanting to pay for the game, with it’s current issues; a legit problem at all?

How do you find it not a legit problem?

Because they won’t do any work if they don’t get paid, will they?

edit: work as in fixing, developing and coming up with money sink ideas

They already got a good amount of money from the founder’s packs. Are you suggesting we need to pay them more just to fix issues that were around months ago?

Instead of announcing that they will release TP bundles after about a week or so of the launch they should have launched with the TP bundles on the launch day; OR made their tp trade system functional as in buy fcking tp from their ingame or their official website. Byungshins…

The founders pack didn’t rake in that much cash, if you look at steams daily player base over that period… But it would be nice to see some statistics on it.

I am actually suggesting it. I don’t think people understand how much time and effort goes into developing games. Even struggling kickstarters makes it seem easier than it is. Not only talking time management and otherwise cost.

What I am saying is that even though they are aware of an issue, doesn’t mean that all of them are as easy to fix as people makes it to be. But that can be to poor coding and management; which is most likely not optimal, but otherwise still a very real problem.

It’s not like they will fix the problems if their income comes to a halt? I’d rather think that it would result in the games demise.

Edit: It’s not like I completely disagree with you on the topic. But I understand that there’s a good reason that they’re relying on fan translations instead of paying professionals…

i know right,

this is pretty much one of the most ■■■■■■ up system in the MMO’s i have ever played,

not even the bad launch of Vanguard can match this, basically IMC ■■■■■■ their own self,

they wanted too many restrictions, they think they can win by doing so, no, all they did has worsen the game so much,

trying to have different region packs, non trading system for silver, etc2, their intention is to prevent bot and hackers, but it turned out 10x worse than if they dont do these at all, because right now, so many legit players are suffering so badly in this game,

Trading is a joke as well due to the lack of trading options, people had to find a way to exploit the market place, but other users are complaining that the economy is ruined, well, blame it to IMC for creating such a stupid trade system.

i still want to like the game because i have spent almost 290 hours since OBT

I was wondering that today… Loading screens, website announcements but a week later no pack yet available for purchase.

You know something is wrong when people are willing to pay for something but they can’t. LOL