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Bee farm full of AFK Farmer

I think it depends on circumstances, for example: Is it better to have more players if all they do is afk farm/bot/macro and not really contribute for where players are needed.

Also your stated situations seem quite illogical to me, having a better economy would definitely contribute to growing a larger community likewise the opposite is known to make people leave.

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That’s a false dilemma. A bad economy will further harm the player base as current players will have difficulty keeping up, and new players will find it impossible to break into. If a couple of key problem causing players quit over are a necessary change then so be it.

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I thought about this^ before posting. And I really agree. But did it anyway because I wanted to see to what point people would justify their actions, based on the premise they are so important that the healthy environment of the game must be sacrified for their interest.

“I will quit if IMC remove **** insert anything that hurts the game****, so the game will die.”

But then, it depends on how TOS can attract and maintain new players, considering there are a lot more problems than just the economy. One step too wrong and it might really die.

Not that removing AFK farming is guaranteed to be one of these steps.

You know the fact that be it necros afk and macro locks, I was been turning blind on them

But lately, it’s now filled with people doing the same thing over and over. They just log, put their stuff and get away with it.

While I spent like up to 4-5 hours just trying to keep up with gears and stuffs with completely legal method, it still hurts to see they did nothing but have better gear than me. I am wasting my hours and better do something else IRL than this if that is the case.

Fact: all my friends that stay in game are either whales, have necros or macro lock, meta builds, multi alt saalus slaves, RMT, or hardcore 24/7
I have no normal or casual on my friend list anymore :sob:
now If you’ll excuse me after I post my rant…

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Just a fun fact… here a current Rank 7 Necro… Breaking around 1-2 per day if lucky… Now… if i remember correctly a whole day of farming orange mats nets you WAAAAY more than AFK Necro…

Macro Locks make way more and possibly be profitable versus actual orange farming…

I know that it may seem that 1-2 million per day per, lets say, 50 ppl (and thats stretching by a LOT… theres 4 channels in dina with 5 good spots and like 7-8 so so spots competing with the good ones)… So back to point, how does 50-100 million controled by 50 ppl hinder the economy???, they create a demand for other things that other players suply… be it potions, cards, gear, etc… so the economy can be stable… think other ways to make that kind of money for attributes for example… basically the current economy gives you a lot of posible ways to get those attributes… and if you brand illegal the necros thats theoretically 50-100 millions down the drain and either all goes to hell due to ppl not buying stuffs hence not flowing the silver, therefore ppl that farmed for orange mats will get mad due to not selling or lowering their prices…

So all in all is a delicate state… and as i said before…

1.- leave the necros as they are…
2.- rework the necros BUT create a money maker map or a reliable way to get silver, or just increase spawn rate and spawn points by 2-3 times current one so the silver output of servers equals…

PS: now i said it more refined :smiley:

Edit: the more i think about it, i really like the idea of dynasty TOS type spawn… it solves the necro economy due to making non profitable or very low compared to go choping mob after mob with high kill per minute, hence high silver per minute :smiley:

i dont understand why they didn’t put a duration on the necro pets, that’s the stupidest thing i ever seen, a summon that doesn’t decay over time lmao

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This, or a summon that consume you SP by % and dont let you naturally regen it D:

All these people trying to defend AFK farming, gg, why not ask IMC to let botting be legal while at it.

AFK farming and Botting both means Youre AFK and generate currency with 0 effort.

If you think about it, your character is your “computer”, and the summons are your “bots”.

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meh… the door is big enough if you dont like what imc give us to play with… :smiley:

Either join the necros, or be constructive with a posible solution… only thing ppl do with post like this is grab negative attention from GMs… just go and make a bunch of tickets… make a flood of post in suggestion part of forum… idk… this line of sight and doing have proven that leads nowhere and feed the point that necros are actually needed for the game to make enough drama to keep the game floating :smiley:

I made an Oracle with the one purpose to mess with the AFK farmers :smirk:

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People are just reporting a problem with the game atm. Only because you are reporting a problem, doesnt mean you have a solution to it.

No, we dont need necros and this stupid afk farm as part of the game.

am not saying who is right or who is wrong about the necros… am saying that the WAY ppl are complaining is wrong… go submit a ticket… or go to the suggestion forum and start a real conversation about it…[quote=“Ginbei, post:153, topic:353904”]
I made an Oracle with the one purpose to mess with the AFK farmers :smirk:
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Also… this goes way against the rules of tos with actual intentional hindering other players experience… just saying…

But why, there is no gaming experience if you arent even playing,

Besides who can make solid proof that im changing mobs with the purpose to kill people, maybe it just happened to become a mob i couldnt fight, i died and didnt want to come back.

See how quick you were to defend automatisation. :stuck_out_tongue:

Just as much as AFK farmers tries to make use of their "botting"
Just FYI there is no rule saying i cant change mobs into i get something i cant even fight myself. Its the other players fault if they were afk, not being able to run away.:wink:

“My character i left AFK ingame was killed by someone while i was sleeping/at work/school, he totally ruined my gaming experience!” Nice try

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Same thing can be sayed about the AFK necros… theres no rule… BUT the grey area is that it hinder the experience of other ppl, so at least AFK necros is a big iffy in the economy… in the oracle case is actual intent of hindering a player…

PS: You just admitted to do it, so maybe a GM will do something, or not…

Go ahead and report, youre just a few clicks away.

gm edy mention afk necros aint wrg anyway, not much ppl can do anyway lul.

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As an Oracle we are simply utilizing the game mechanics!

Same as Necros!!!

Or Linkers spec with con in Merc with lifelink wiping the entire party…

But never Macro Locks or AutoSorcs… Never Forget Never Forgive…

Just activate pvp modus if the necro is longer then 5 minutes afk xD
Many ppl would go to dina just to f*** up the afker farmer im sure!

Was afk farming against the rules on k/j-tos?

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Differences:

  • Bot Warlock -> will get banned so, byebye money
  • AFK Necro -> will not get banned so, he keeps money and use them