Tree of Savior Forum

Barbarians vs every other class

Yep, it’s simply because the Barb players KS too much.

agree to the points above they had mentoned. Our hates are not against the barbarians but the players. Most KSers are barbarians. Other classes need time to setup their attacks, for example my mage. I have to auto attack every single monster and gather them together and have my spell to kill them. But fark these “barbarians” that just come over and kill steal everything. I lessly see other classes do this though.

As you mentioned, barbarians have high raw damage. Their setup time are much lesser or almost instant. Can you imagine when you have used your spell that have over 1minute cooldown and there is one farker come over and kill everything? -_-

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“crab my spell went off, better circle the enemies together until my spell comes ba…aaand there goes all my hard work”

:expressionless:

been a wizard is serious business…

All this things wouldn’t happen if IMC just put more channels in higher level areas (20 more channels plox)

There IS monster tagging though? First person who damage it tags it, I’ve killed a few damaged monster and see greyed out loot drop from them.

Wow…this generalization, rly sad…

Let me try to open your eyes.
First of all; yes my main is a c3barb atm Doppel soon to hit maxlvl (192?193? i dont remember atm) but i also have played a wiz/cryo/linker arround lvl 100~…so i saw both sides.
Even im a barb, i never ever KS! One time i remember, i KSed by a mistake because… i run into the screen killed a mob and AFTER that the char got loaded by server…so i didn’t saw him before :(i rly felt bad about that, even it wasn’t my fault…)
To see it from the other side when i play my Linker, no matter what class, i got ksed a lot…and no that’s not just barbs, that are also archers, other mages and clerics. (Feels like, linked mobs have a magical force of attraction to other players :dizzy_face: )

Like DrRM said, maybe its because barbs seems like to be the most common class on the game…so the chance to get KSed by a barb player is higher.

And again as a Barb Player i can say with clear conscience, i doesn’t KS other Player!

Greetings from a peaceful Barb Player :love_letter:

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I’ve found Archers to be the biggest KSers. Way more often it’s an archer that KS’s me since they just point their char in one direction and open fire regardless of whether there are players there or not.
I’m a C3 Barb myself and I don’t KS. I also have one of each class, all 60-100 as well; for testing purposes ofc.

Yea because kneeling shot is broken this beta and the range bonus doesn’t work so you can’t sit down and shoot half the map. When its fixed i will kneeling camp again.

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@rofldat There are two types of monster tagging in this beta, Last hitting and Health percentage. Me and a friend tested out the different times you can get loot, and it seems inconsistent.

Half of the time, the person who last-hit the monster will get all loot privileges. the other half, its the person who did the most damage to the monster. In terms of Barbarians, they usually fill both roles.

More often than not, barbs KS monsters you need for a quest rather than just the loot. In a questing basis, Last-Hitting is the only way to get credit for quests, so there is no monster tagging in this situation.

This game has no “First-Hit” monster tagging like some others do. Its Last-hit, or most damage.

@Rahbarbera-Bar All generalizations are sad. Stereotypes exist for almost any race in real life. A video game is no exception to these rules. The reason stereotypes exist, is because statistics says they are true. More often than not, a certain person or thing will fulfill common attributes and be categorized by such. (Not trying to be racist) but its mostly true that almost all African Americans like chicken, and almost all Asians are smart. Now, not all of them possibly fill that stereotype, but most of them do.

Its the same here… not all Barbarians fill the ‘KS, My Monster, My Loot’ type of stereotype, but most of them in fact do. Be proud that you don’t, but also bare in mind that people will treat you differently just because of these generalizations.

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Nope some fit the type of “KS,My Monster,My Loot, Then insult/harass the person ks’d” stereotype lol

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after i reach rank 3 barb i’d never use its costume outfit… went to royal mos 3-4f to farm some vikaras core and i wasnt killed stealed the only time i use my outfit when i reached lvl 90 for dungeons… thats why everytime i farm outside dungeon i remove the barb costume and pretend like a low lvl swordsman :smiley:

True story. For linker archers are even more of a problem than barbarians or melee clerics. Krivises like to put their Zaibas on top of my linked group of monsters too.

barb3 never ks someone, but i did ks by high lvl archer or party, archer with oblique could clean a map in few sec

I agree, archer is probably the worst offender, but archer oblique shot KS is kind of unintentional though since you can’t decide where the arrow bounces too. You literally just hit the button and it will auto lock onto the nearest target in range (even if the nearest target is a trap,tree-root crystal, pyro fireball,etc.), then the bounce shot just shoots off who knows where and before you know it you accidentally KS a couple people because you have to spam oblique shot to farm efficiently.

If you think that’s bad, you should see scout C3 split shot. My scout just destroys most farm maps and if you don’t have the see other player’s effects option on (not that it matters much though because split shot attack animation looks exactly the same as oblique shot animation - which looks like a normal auto attack animation) , it just looks like hacks because stuff all over the map is randomly suffering damage and exploding.

Of course, what do you expect when there’s only one channel for 80% of the maps and all the monsters spawn in close enough clusters for oblique shot bounce to reach.

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Am ok with people unintentionally ks… what I hate is people going to you and cleaning everything you are trying to kill like if there was no other mob around but yours…

I am a wizard c2 psycho c2 sorcerer with summons and I don’t use them, be cause I know they will go random and KS…

but there is always some ■■■■■■■ that see you group enemies and instead of keeping his darn bow and sword to themselves… what they do, go and clean it of before you can set the attack…

cause ■■■■ everyone else this is my channel and place and you need you chill cause am proud of been a KS scum

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Unintentional isn’t too bad, especially if you can tell someone immedietly stops after realising they hit something you were fighting / luring. I usually see more linker built characters “trying it” on me than other classes, i guess it’s subjective to the player after all. bish whet? did you just joint penal… oh hell no trying to knot the mobs? those are my mobs missy / relocates monsters with frozen pillar. and then i spend the next few minutes staring at my computer screen with a serious/confused face.

I hate this so much. Oh wow, that person pulled all those mobs with a skill? i’m going to kill the monsters.
meanwhile some poor loaf of bread’s trying to channel their 45s cast time skill or target whatever it is, and this can of tuna just ruined their fun. /cries on cooldown

your points are pretty spot on. I’ve never played barb but base on observation and collective feedback, this is pretty much the case. What I’ve deduced so far is that barbs are no more than glass cannons who burst everything down (pretty much) pre-150 (or even lower), they just fall off so hard.If i may just digress, I find it funny that archers can 225% overkill mobs even more so around these stage. Shout out to all those Archers-are-weak-AF posters

Anyways, pvp-wise I can pawn just about any barb (below rank6) in under 10s with a support mage build (c2 link -> sorc), exactly why I’d readily shrug off any OP complain I read over at the shout channel.

lol archer players just complain about sp costs on oblique and other skills, also having weak AA, but in the end i find archers to be the best late game class for dps. just my opinion.

Nope they complain about EVERYTHING. Its getting really old when archers are just fine.

yeah, i have a lv 180 wugushi, and a 190 schwartzer reitzer and yes , it was painfull at first, but in the end, oh boy, i could destroy any class in pvp , except for monks or sadhus , they are just retarded lol