We must kill them at the source. We must…kill them…
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Silver Competition is good but still it doesn’t fix much of the problem, the main way to trade in this game is silver. TP is convenience and isn’t really giving that big boost you’d think off.
Capcha could “delay” and I say delay only the bot problem but it need to be coded through the engine of TOS otherwise bot will bypass the whole process. IMC can’t really put this thing into place. Plus it’s really a drawback with the gameplay.
I’m not sure what kind of power IMC has. But there isn’t much solution to this I don’t remind myself that even a single mmo managed to prevent botting. Especially through licensing.
Korea and Japan can ban through SID. which is a drastic move
The only drastic move I can guess of is leaving the whole computer control to a new computer platform that doesn’t allow any other software or memory to be used other than the game itself. And perform memory scans.
Would cost too much money and is too drastic.
IMC are developers of ToS. They are not under any license restrictions.
In theory they can setup phone verification system (you require to verify your cellular number in order to play) and/or ban offenders by HWID along with that phone number.
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Probably one of the best solution so far. There is still some leak like making a phone number through skype but there is a good delay I believe.
I think that Skype can only send SMS, not receive SMS. But I’m sure with a little googling you can find a workaround for this where you can receive SMS through fake phone numbers of the sort.
Yeah I just checked it out and there are disposable number websites. Although, if you require verification after being reported as a bot say 5? 10 times? It might become way too tedious and time consuming for a bot to continuously update to new disposable numbers, grab the SMS info and enter it and what not. It may be able to be automated but who knows how efficient that could really be.
Even so, it doesn’t look like there’s an endless list of numbers here either and, when a bot is banned, you would ban the number that they used along with them so they can not reuse numbers.
It might, over time, force them off of the game with no way to return.
This is why your solution wont work:
Any captcha can be solved for as little as $5 per 10000 captcha requests.
BOTS> BTOS> TOSB[ Tree of Saviour Beta]
obvious is obvious. Nowadays bots are always overrunning the newer games to earn real money and then ± die away later on when the hype is over and the population of the game partially migrated to another newer MMORPG.
Yes, bots are the 2nd most annoying thing in every game (the most annoying thing are griefplayers[scammers,killstealers and other non-human{in the sense of enlightenment} trash of the species homo sapiens sapiens]), but sadly players never have any power to eradicate them from the games. Best would be if we could just vote them to become killable by all players , resulting in a loss of all equipment and silver in their posession.
This would stop bots and griefplayers alike, however it would still be abuseable by trash because sadly we can’t block human trash from entering MMORPGs, so there is no way to do anything against them on our own.
But then again, why do you even complain? There isn’t even one country in the world with a good and fair government, politicians are being corrupt and destroy our lives, countries and even our minds. Go out and fix your 씨티 governments first before complaining about people who live the same way as those greedy politicians and other criminals by profiting from the peoples passiveness and stupidity [i.e. not being able to make reasonable choices for their own good and giving up their freedom,right into the hands of these felons] inside a game.
This is not to whiteknight IMC but to make people realize that humanity is already so rotten everywhere that you can’t expect anything else even inside a game [gㅁㅁㅁㅁㅁn virtual societies <_<].
If no one complaint thing will go out of control though, we can’t just live life and say that everything is ok if we want something to change.
If you don’t feel well in your job and you don’t do anything because everyone hate complainer well you’ll have a sad life for a very long time.
Nothing is completely Black nothing is completely White. But we must set something reasonable and this is why as a society we need to talk.
as of the current situation.
Roaming GM’s ingame could solve the problem at 85% max.
- saw a bot, right click > report bot
- (report then goes to ONLINE GM INGAME)
- GM are able to warp/teleport to the reported player
- GM conducts necessary procedure to determine if its a bot or not.
oh wait. there ain’t one… anyone saw a GM ingame already?
R.I.P
I want to add to the things that is not also a solution.
NOT BANNING BOTS!
/20micdrops
I know a certain publisher in my country that uses self-developed anti-hack solution that is a ring 0 rootkit (you basically allow them to fully control your PC) that remaps many windows API calls so button press emulations wont work (at all). It worked for their games - no bots. The only way to uninstall it tho is to make a new clean installation of OS.
But if such or similar solution to be introduced in international releases - there would be tons of complaints about privacy and security.
I’ve always wondered about the possibility of moving bots into a “botting” channel. Where they can all have the freedom to spam and never move back to the world. IMC can gather enough metrics on the way these botters think to further improve their engine that can detect bots not only by text, but by activity.
The only way to fight RMT is by giving players the ability to control the market and compete with them. TP to silver conversion is one way, and we have it with tokens and whatever may be allowed to be traded from the cash shop eventually. In order for this to kick into our favor we need the price for tokens to normalize to compete with RMT rates. We also need the trading post delays lifted as well.
IMC needs to learn that any limitations set to hinder RMT also serve to inconvenience legit players as well.
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I was referring to RuRO (Russian official ragnarok online server, currently shut down permanently). Since Renewal they implemented Innova System’s Frost that prevented bots and many macro programs from running. Another game protected by same tool is Lineage 2 - no bots as well. Maybe more but i’m not their customer for quite a long time already. But Frost itself was a huge compromise of system privacy and security.
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That encryption was cracked as soon as it got released. I wasnt talking about that.
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This is literally the only solution to botspam and as such, ban anyone who buys gold/items with real money, if you don’t enforce this on day 1, you’re going to end up in a situation where you later on can’t ban these people because most of your community will start buying gold.
NA Maplestory made the mistake of not punishing people buying gold early on and you can bet your bottoms that banning goldbuyers today there would get rid of 75% of the current remaining community, because people saw literally no reason not to buy gold.
Lock the growth with the adventure points.
- Map require adventure points to access.
- Level require adventure points to over limit.
- Item require adventure points for equip.
- Limit item selling 100ea per time and not allow duplicate on materials.
etc.