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Att Dmg vs Crit Dmg

If you could add 100 physical attack dmg or 100 Crit dmg, which would you choose?

And assuming your crit rate is 100%. Which contribute more to the output of the attacks?

I would assume its the same. and i would rather take 100 physical damage increase.

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assume 100% crit chance (always yellow number)

100 physical dmg will add crit dmg for (1001.5) + 0 = 150 critical attack dmg
while
100 crit atk will add crit dmg for (0
1.5) + 100 = 100

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you need to take in consideration your skills dammage too.
at end game , your weapon doesnt do the most of your dammages, some skills event add up to 4k dmg.
so its sometime better to go for a crit rate build to make the skills crit, than crit less often and do more “white dmg”

But people often prefere to go full str and use dex only for accuracy.

beside the question is irrelevant, since adding to strenght add physical dmg AND crit dmg, as for the stuff with critical attack stat, it always gives more of it than physical dmg stat.

I’m having a + zero Str Build, so i’m concern and relevant. I am choosing between Crit att items and Physical att items. Relevant much. -_-

You shouldnt do that, you’ll have too much crit rate.
just aim for 150 crit rate more than your crit Res, then put the rest in STR
and put crit rate on your stuff to complete your crit chance.

that way you get psysical dmg + crit attack.

No, crit chance - cri resist will divide by target lv (iirc [rate-resist]*42/lv) so you cant overinvest cri rate when you reach lv 200+.

If you have item that compensate atk/cri atk such as 2H weapon you can go high dex nice and clean.

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what i mean by too much crit rate is having more than 60-70% crit chance

its better to miss 2-3 crit once every 10 hits, and do more crit dmg on the crit you do, beside , there’s many buff that give crit rate % bonus.
lvl 250 or so, having + 200 crit rate than crit res, give you roughly 80-90% i think

But if you can proove me wrong , at least i’ll stand corrected, i personaly choose full str build over dex.

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As a full dex build currently. I get hit mostly by magic attacks. Because evade.

As a full Str build, how do you survive? I can’t imagine getting hit all the time.

i go hybrid builds

80 dex 180 str 20 con 10 spr is my stats atm

planning to go 40 con then 90 dex next to improve my dodge and hp so i could survive more on higher level

since i have a pretty good evasion and can make up for it from high lvl boots i can leave it a bit low

critical rate covered by green gem
accuracy is enough since i have 80 dex

my problem is block penetration atm since it comes from spr and im an archer and i hate mobs that has block

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How are you dodging now? rough %?
How you manage magic attacks against you? I’m sure it hurts a lot.

yep pretty sure they hurt me thats why im planning on increasing my con to 40 since my 6k hp cant handle magic mostly if those are freeze sleep type spells

on dungeon im pretty much the only one that survives unless the boss is 10 levels higher than me which i really died 2-3 times since i get 6.3k on huge hits and had to resort equipping +con items

Back to the topic… (Side tracked, was curious)

I used to play a game called Ragnarok online, the first version. They had a class called assasin and i was playing a max AGI evasion build with maximum crit chance. They didn’t had Crit dmg but crit hits were good because they ignore target’s defense ratings.

I very disturbed by this Crit attack damage trend in current MMOs. Definitely not a fan.

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i evade by moving my ass lol , i have no survival issue with full STR , and currently 31 Con ( with stuff included) at lvl 163.
as long as i dont get OS i dont plan on adding Con, that’s why healer are here for.

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Crit Rate is not % you can have 234 crit rate and all but it all depends on the mobs if the mobs has 500 Crit resistance then you probably crit 4 out of 10.

Crit Chance on the other hand is different it is pure % if it says 40% then you’ll get 4 out of 10.

Archer knows these thing specially those who are rangers and hunters. look at the skill “Critical shot” of rangers and “Coursing” of hunters. then look at “Praise” of hunters.

that’s when you realize Crit rate and Crit chance are 2 different figures.
even if you have 1 DEX if you have a buff saying you get 40% crit chance then you have 40% crit chance.

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My build was STR DEX ratio of 3:1
and will add crit rate through gems.

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Didn’t they added a crit cap and evasion cap ?
I’ve read somewhere in the kTOS discussion, but not sure if I remember right
Edit: it seem they also change the formula, someone said that you can’t even reach the cap even if you go full DEX, that’s why full str and int is more popular I think.
Again, I’ve read it quite sometime ago, so I can’t find the source T v T, it’s somewhere in kTOS thread though

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