Is rogue kinda useful in Pvp ? (2v2 5v5 and gvg) i mean exept backstabiing people which can be easy countered as told by razm2888 : “rogue and backstab is not a good pvp mechanic imo, you’ll lose to almost any other pvp class such as cataphract, kinos, warlocks (because of the dark shield), and clerics ofc.”
Ok thanks mate. What about Shinobi vs rogue please? Do you have some info or advices please? Trying to get different opinions 
youre Scout>Rogue, not just rogue…
so you get damage mitigation, and you cn just stealth b4 u use backstab
and capture is useful in PvP, it steals a magic circle,
you could go
Archer2>Sapper>Scout>Rogue3>?
so ur litterally an assiasin, traps, tealth, smoke bombs, theif, high dodging, mitigation
the only thing u really get simialr to an assiain with shinobi is a shot stealth and decoy
Pelt>Rodelero>Shinobi>Murmillo has more dmg but it is not similar to assasin, alteast not nearly as rogue is
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Mate thank you very much for the detailed answers and patience 
I think you convinced me i’m gonna up a rogue
if you go
Archer2>Sapper>Scout>Rogue3
the “assasiny” feel wont show up until rank 6 though, because thats where u get the backstab, high evasion, smoke bomb
b4 then u have flare and stealth and camoflaudge
Rogues3 aren’t that much viable anymore imo due to:
-Karacha set(Backstab dmgx4 now x3) nerf months ago
-Backstab’s hitbox(which is melee) being picky on where the target is facing(basically as bad as it’s RO counterpart)
Unlike assassins/rogues in other games ours can’t hide>skill>hide
or hide>skill>kill due to poor class/skill balancing.
Right now PvP wise its either play burst or play CC or play cleric.
They are still a one circle wonder class due to Sneakhit, Feint and Capture that can go well with other builds like Ranger, Sapper or give Cannoneers and Musketeer landing bigger crit chance on their burst damage skills. Specially that stacking Werewolf cards just got proven to maximize Sneakhit
I was thinking about this build too. Maybe QS instead of archer2 to get more utility with Deploy Pavise and Scatter Caltrops.
Which class for R8 please? Scout 2 or Hackapell?
you could go QS, although sapper would be better, and for rank8, hackapalle would be better
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The fact is i’m looking for a melee assassin type class not ranged or i’d prefered ranged burst class i’d go mage class.
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Holy molly i’m still undecided 
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Actually archers have more burst variety builds than mages in the current lategame, with the exemption of Wiz3>Linker>X>FF/Necro, mages in general are either supportCC(Cryo,Kino,Chrono) or DPS DOT(Pyro,Elememe) 
Yea well shield assassin is really weird xD i think i’m gonna weigh the pros and cons of rogue and shinobi spec and decide. I think sniper type classes and shield assassin are definitely nor for me
That was just an (bad) exemple i’m totally not interested to play ranged class
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you proly right mate i’m gonna think about these tips and decide which class i’m gonna play. Thank you very much for your precious help guys
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Well, you either yield to the archer’s Scout>Rogue3 despite it’s lackluster lategame route or go:
-SpearmanPirateNinjaGladiator
-ShieldlordNinjaGladiator
tbqh, the game doesn’t really offer what you’re looking for but eitherways, goodluck on whatever class tree and build choice you make.