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Archers are priviledged/special because of their damage?

Hello, everyone.
I need your opinion on a slight altercation that I had with another player.

My Hubby and I were running the level 90 dungeon for the first time today. Our party came across a part of a dungeon where there was a very small ramp ascending up to another area of the map.

Everyone in my party except for one player, an Archer with Ranger 3, had made it 1/2 up the ramp when I casted Ice Wall in order for the us to attack some mobs up ahead.

However, with how small the ramp was, I ended up trapping the Ranger on the other side of the wall for 15 seconds. The Ranger then became angry and told me not to use Ice Wall anymore. My Hubby then got into an argument with the Ranger and basically stated that they were entitled to get their way because they deal 3,000 dmg per normal arrow (a lot of damage that I didn’t see from anyone through out the run)

Later during the run, the Ranger said begrudgingly told that I could cast Ice Wall, just not to block them anymore.

My question is that I as completely wrong for trapping them with Ice Wall? It wasn’t really my intention but it happened. I would have apologized for it but it feels like the Ranger went too far by literally saying that they were special and more important than me because they deal a lot more damage. Maybe I’m being overly dramatic but I don’t know… It just feels like they were being too egotistical there.

shrugs. nobody is right for yelling at other people for mistakes, especially in a video game. It’s true that you should try to not cast ice wall in untimely places, but what’s more annoying is people thinking they have party control because they assume they contribute most dps-wise.

If the guy wants a party like that, he can arrange one himself. you’re fine.

You messed up and he got salty.

That’s pretty much it. For you LoL players out there:

It’s like when you gank top but your top laner actually gets outplayed and dies. Then he tells you “don’t come top again.”

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you messed up.

archer overreacted.

if his damage is -that- amazing, he should just do the dungeon himself.

Dont block them… icewall blocks certain range attacks too. He made those salty dps remarks because hes salty. Icewall can be really annoying sometimes and especially when casted poorly.

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Yes, you were wrong to do so. A simply apology would of righted that, but since you didnt do that, well; it’s understandable that it angered the archer.

From his position it might of even seemed like you trolled him by walling him off. His request to not use ice wall anymore was a fair one.

Well, it’s idiotic to deny a top DPS from doing their job. Maybe not as bad as trapping the tank or healer unless there’s some time constraint or contesting with other parties, but still dumb.

But DPS types can easily be full of themselves. Unless they’re topping damage trackers and winning duels, you could probably do just as well without em. Even still, it’s probably not going to end in a party wipe if they’re AWOL for 10 seconds.

Well, everyone can exaggerate their own importance, so it’s not just archers who would rant at you.

Though I guess, if you trapped someone who was actually not being helpful at all, it’d be somewhat acceptable? Say there’s someone with a joke build, no gear, and is just pulling aggro on way too much to try and get you all killed. Maybe he thought you were implying that?

Well just be careful from now on… or never use Ice Wall ever again?

I don’t believe this actually has anything to do with archer… anyone can be annoyed and as a level 150 player I can say that ice wall really can get in the way if you aren’t careful where you cast it, I have seen whole parties wipe to a bad ice wall.

So while his response may have been brash and annoyed, I think he was coming from a constructive place. Be careful with ice wall, and take raging with a grain of salt. People get annoyed when you are in a dungeon for an hour if things aren’t going well.

Yeah I would not use ice wall with a ranger on your team because it actually blocks almost/all damage of his barrage skill which is his bread and butter when it comes to damage.

They do not deal 3,000 damage per normal arrow.

I’m level 230, and I don’t deal 3,000 damage per normal (non-crit) arrow. Even on flying monsters who I deal 200% damage to with a bow, I do around 2.5k damage on a normal arrow, and I have a very good bow.

wait till you get to higher level dungeons, you buy full 2 hour buffs from town and queue up, soon as u get in some noob cleric overwrites your good buffs with 2 minute buffs and it messes up ur performance in the dungeon