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Anyone going hardcore 2H Spear Hoplite?

Swordsman c2 -> Hoplite c1 -> Cataphract c1 -> Hoplite c2 & c3.
Weapon: 2H Spear (no shield)
Can have the option of mounting but for combat, you can get off the mount to use Long Stride.

Although you are sacrificing so much on defence without a shield, this Hoplite will out-damage any other standard 1H spear Hoplites out there, due to the sheer attack difference between a 2H spear and a 1H spear.

Anyone thinking of doing this?

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Yes is a good idea, of course are shield with 3 sockets with 10lvl Gems may be beter that 2H spear, but Cataphract is fast…

Video of fast mobing:

so many class combos to try in this game !

so nostalgic to my lord knight pierce spammer back in the days haha

now i have a 3rd class to create… this 1 :smiley:

Hello, i have a question, you can cast the skills of the hoplite when mount with cataphract class ?

thanks!

edit: i see on tosbase cataphract skills “able to use while riding” and not on hoplite skill.

Yuppers, I have that planned.

Strangely enough, I have never ever seen a Cataphract even use a normal attack without being on a mount. I fear the world will explode if I even attempt to.

Anyway, I know you’re a big fan of Restrain but I really prefer Swashbuckling’s 25% Max HP boost… Even if it means I gotta do some messy offhand Shield/Dagger swapping stuff. Want it cause I’m taking Doppel too.

Well, it’s just a test to decide if it’ll make it into my final build… I honestly hoped that the 2H Spear attribute was something more convincing to me than 40% Block Penetration… I guess I don’t really know too much about that stat anyway in the PvE context D: Speaking of which, since Flash just released the enchantment values and showed that it doesn’t scale for stronger base value weapons (so they become relatively weaker when both +15), I kinda feel like 1H weapons + Daggers are the future, so I’m not unsure again…

Come to think about it, there’s only two 2H melee weapons anyway… One gets 50% Crit Damage, and the other is… 40% Block Penetration orz

Next question. Can you cast hoplite skills like Stabbing or Pierce while equip Two-handed Spear? This skills havent line Required stanсe in ToSBase.

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I wanted to, but all the 2h spears are not that great :frowning:

This is a topic that tell us which skills could be use when mouting .


Hope it could help u guys :smiley:
2H hoplite could have low HP and DEF but it would look cool totally =]]]]]]]]]

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What about stats ? i think we can easily have a huge critical strike chance rate with finestra + some dex. but this build need CON for survive a little i think.

@hizonhan
2H sword are available only for Highlander, Barbarian, Doppelsoeldner(+2H spear)

@malboyoo
Stats is problem for me too, 1H+Shield need STR:CON:DEX, I will try 5:1:2. (Sword-Pelta-Hoplite_C3-Doppel)

DEX for evad and crit rate, CON block and HP, STR - dmg, crit dmg.

A parallel discussion

Finally 2H do more dmg, but cannot block attack (no shield, and 2h spear cant block), and with Gung Ho and Finestra we lose defence and evasion rating…
So if we can’t block CON is just for HP… putting point in CON just for HP seem like a waste… go full STR/DEX ? i think this build can do really awesome damage but at the price of dying a lot of time ?

I ain’t a big fan of Restrain, just that with this build, if you want to use a 2H spear then Peltasta c1 is meaningless since it’s not going to be a CON build and Swash Buckling max HP attribute won’t benefit that much and you’re not using a shield. Highlander c1 is meaningless too. Hence my choice for Swordsman c2 at rank 2.

You’ll at least be able to dish out more damage with Stabbing and auto attacks.