Swordsman > Pelt > Hop > Cata > Cata > Doppel > Doppel
This is what I’m curious about the general consensus says go cata 3x to drag but, cyclone does more damage than rush and with deeds of valor it stacks even more; yea you have to dismount but in terms of raw damage it seems like it could be viable.
Discuss please.
You realistically don’t want to go circle 2 Doppel as you’re forced into 2 handed swords at that point, and you’ve put 3 circles of work into spears.
You’re basically getting none of the advantages of either Cataphract nor Doppelsoeldner fully with this build. It is too spread out I would say. A few alternatives would be like this:
Swordsman > Pelt > Hop > Cata > Cata > Doppel > Dragoon
Although this isn’t ideal, it is a bit better, as at least you have Dragoon focusing on spears as well, with Doppel’s Deeds of Valor thrown in there as well, since you seem to enjoy that skill (I do too).
Swordsman > Pelt > Hop > Cata > Cata > Cata > Doppel
This is weird, but you’ll at least get the full advantages of Cataphract, and still be able to use Deeds of Valor as well. Mounting will still be an issue though.
How far along in this build are you? You might want to consider going something along the lines of this if you aren’t too far:
Swordsman > Pelt > Hop > Hop > Hop > Doppel > Doppel
This would actually be pretty decent. It would give you the perks of Finestra, which are always nice. You could got a fairly Strength heavy route with this build and that always feels nice with Deeds.
In the end you are trying to mix some classes that don’t work too well together though. In general Cataphract and Hoplite work best with Dragoon, though Hoplite can also work with Corsair and Shinobi for dual wielding builds. If you do pick Cataphract, it is typically recommended you get to circle 3, which would be just fine, since Doppelsoeldner is pretty much a 2-handed sword only class once you get to circle 2. That is why most of them go Barbarian or Highlander in earlier ranks.
Ahh ok that makes sense, wasn’t exactly sure how Doppel panned out. But the plan was to go Cata for sure; want the move speed. I’m almost to Cata now. I went the highlander/barb route and stopped at like lvl 80. and started this character. My monk is sitting at 248… still love it but I want the Ktos buffs. Also Cata is like the best class to farm with imo.
Thanks for the info on Doppel I didn’t know you could only use 2h swords, that does ruin my thoughts on it, Deed of Valor is like the best buff though T-T.
So last circle is between dragoon or doppel, still got some time I guess I’ll figure it out.
I am curious as to what will happen to Deeds of Valor in the long run. There’s no way they are going to let a 100% (potentially 150% if they get a 3rd circle) attack buff fly once the cap is 600. Everyone with Doppelsoeldner in their path would be cleaning house. A full Strength character could have around 5000 attack without a weapon if that were the case…
Now i want to see some sort of crazy no weapon build when the max level is released using only buffs.
gearless op doppel armies.
Actually, if it scales to a circle 3, they’d have over 7000 attack. It’s silly to think about, as it’s so far off, but it will be interesting to see what happens.
maybe this has always been planned, to compensate for the late-game weaknesses that most swordies seem to be experiencing currently.
If you are curious. Trot, the buff that makes you go super fast is on a 50sec CD, once you dismount, the buff is gone.
So its a horrible idea to mix. Maybe imc will fix this? Maybe not.
Right now cataphract is really shoehorned into dragoon or templar.