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Any bad skills to look out for? Sw1>High3>Barb1>Dopp2(3)

Class and Rank Swordsman
#1

So I started my two handed sword guy and realised I have no idea what skills to put points into so I’ve had to stop playing as soon as I reached Highlander for the moment when I really want to carry on.

What skills are zero point duds because of bad animations/damage?
Which skills are one point wonders that don’t need further investment?
Are there any skills that don’t have database rank higher for overlevels? I.E +2 skill levels with Cleric skill & skill gem (Is there a Vertical Slash 7?) that I should cap out two levels lower than max?

Swd1>High3>Barb1>Dopp2(3)

Solo PvE, World Boss, Mission, DungeonAutoQueue.

Should I leave DEX at +0, can I just get STR and CON and drink Health Potions constantly?

Any particularly good swords to look out for at certain levels? I have a Cafrisun set ready.

Head straight for Highlander 3 or weave Barbarian 1 in earlier?

#2

Try to search TOS Base for public builds.

A lot of your questions can be answered with simple google search.

#3

Recent patch though, and I don’t see exactly why I shouldn’t ask here for an up to date answer rather than swimming through a sea of ToS Open Beta information.

If you don’t want to see people asking questions and it bothers you enough to tell them to search elsewhere why are you on the Swordsman Forums for Swordsman Questions instead of doing something else entirely?

Easy example? DEX vs STR Swordsman open beta threads have completely different answers from a thread today about DEX vs STR Swordsman

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#4

Lol whats with the rage calm down.

Asking one question about STR vs Dex is one thing. Asking 20 questions about a class and expecting a full guide on it on the forums is another thing. I just gave you an advice to look up TOS Base not the forum threads.

#5

I’m asking you whats with the rage? Swordsman Forum, Swordsman Questions, i’m in the right place, what is with you telling me to leave and get my Swordsman information elsewhere from outdated sources? It’s a really weird attitude to have.

Forum threads are EXACTLY the right places to find Class information and Class Guides actually are you really saying it isn’t? and you are supprised that a Swordsman Class forum is where you found a thread like this? really what is wrong with you. :frowning:

Lol you want a discussion off of a forum. Here is the Websters of the word forum:

noun fo·rum \ˈfȯr-əm\

      Simple Definition of forum

            : a meeting at which a subject can be discussed

            : a place or opportunity for discussing a subject

            : a large public place in an ancient Roman city that was used as the center of business
#6

noooo 99% of public builds are shity, never use those

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#7

heres a basic build, thats the stuff u want for now, u will have a lot of spare points with ur highlander skills, just wait and on high level u decide what u want more. i’m doing the same, but my skyliner is at lvl 1 too, so i don’t need to keep using potions while i’m low lvl.

about dex/str, i’m going full STR, maybe a bit of CON later, probably low dex or 0 dex.

#8

Thanks Lenny, that was very helpful, I was hoping for that answer about DEX, it seems like the further the game goes the more STR stacking with will be noticeable so I didn’t want to sideline into DEX too much.

Did you find any really notable swords that you didn’t replace next level band opportunity?

Is bash something you took for PvE reasons? I finished my Swordsman rank and didn’t take it and i’m wondering if that was a mistake.

#9

lvl 3 bash is a must for any swordsman, u can knock stuff down with it, has 3 overheats and low cd. very helpful against hard hiting / magic mobs

#10

Do some of the elites have immunity to it? And what was apealing about “Crown” to get 4 points, same question about Cartar Stroke at 3 and Skull Swing at 5

#11

large mobs usually are imune to knock down, but bash lvl 3 is still the best skill of swordsman c1.

crown scales with ur STR and make magic mobs hit a LOT less, and work on bosses too (very helpfull), i put 4 points in it just to be sure u would have at least 10 secs. i prefer 6+ points in it

catar lvl 3 to use knock back and damage atributes, nothing more cus the damage isnt good enough

skull swing lasts 30 secs on bosses on lvl 5 and only 10 secs on lv 1

#12

Excellent, I feel like I can put some points in with confidence and play the character again.:grinning: Thanks for the information, I’ll keep watching in case you (or anyone else) has some other good tips.

It seems like you put one point in most things, so there are not any skills with poor animations/base damage then?

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#13

but id sugest u make a cleric, cus swordsman are not good in this game =/
if with R8 doppel c3 our dmg don’t skyrocket, illl just roll a cleric

#14

Ah that’s ok. I have 240 Canoneer, 165 Elementalist, 165 Bokor, 64 Priest and 50 Peltasta so i’m not too worried about what is and isn’t buffed as I can just play another character.

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#15

we need people like you. Why do people like you in forums do not exist? commended

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#16

cartar stroke dmg isnt good enough??? watch this video, 1 skill 23k dmg+, and plz re-minded is in field pvp situation where the dmg is penalized…

#17

Yikes is it usually that bad around here? I don’t visit too often, people should definitely lighten up about what is under and overpowered as making a new character should be fun adventure and not a chore for when they change something!

#18

Wow that looks nice, is that your character? What level of Cartar Stroke is that? it doesn’t even look like the full charge and it did all of that damage!

#19

about catar stroke, dmg isnt enough to level it higher, base dmg will be low anyway, so leave it at lvl 3. but thats my opinion tho =/
cast time at lvl 3 is long enough, u can cast more to get +200-300 dmg, but thats not a lot. most of the dmg comes from ur STR

#20

Catar Stroke is one of the best skills in the Swordman Tree (maybe?).
People only used to pick it at lv3 due to the “casting time” (something that you can interrupt, and still do a lower lv attack. Also, if you get knockedown while casting, you’ll still attack when you standup, or you can choose to release the skill while knockeddown, and the skill will not attack and not enter cd/use an overheat. It’s is truly a miracle from god.)

Lv3 also unlocks the Attribute, which is a must.
But now with the kToS patch, casting time for the skill got halved, so you could go to lv6 for a reasonable casting time.

But the problem of that would be skill managing (all Highlander skills are worth taking, even if 1 point).