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Anvil exploit exposed in Ktos, possibly used within ITos as well

Not at all surprised at the exploit knowing there’s a +40 weapon and the like out there. However, I am impressed at the prompt response from the staff.

/20hopesrestored

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Take into account that last time something like this happened (channel crashes to trigger rollbacks) many ragequit.
At least this time they acknowledged the problem swiftly.

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This thread is 1 big ole “I TOLD YOU SO”. Such a good read.

/20exploits

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I remember a certain someone saying there are no anvil exploits in this game.

How dumb they feel now?

Not going to name any names.

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You do know this only happened to 3 weapons on ktos and 2 on itos and was a server-side bug and not an exploit, right? Only affecting weapons at 0 potential while enhancing with normal anvils at the risk of the weapon being destroyed if it “unbugged” during the process.

Do you really think many people with +40 weapons with 1+ potential abused this complicated bug that requires 0 potential + normal anvils?

Depends on how you see them, I still think from experience that using many anvils faster, one after another can produce a “streak” of success. But this is just luck at the end, it won’t be deterministic.

But if we’re talking about a single anvil being placed, yeah, it’s decided before the 3 hits. Not like the myths and etc were about a single anvil though.

Yes, it is.

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LOL what is all this? Where did I say many people exploited this bug? Where did I ask for an explanation of this bug? Where did I say it was client side or that it was not a bug?

Everything you said is true and my comment still stands.

What’s the meaning of your “I told you so” then? Since this is a server-side bug related to items in their DB not behaving correctly due to the “locked” flag instead of a player-triggered exploit?

EDIT:
Oh, just read it, then it makes sense, sorry for my comment. I thought your “Told you so” was referring to some previous comments as “hey, told you that there’s an exploit with anvils”, since some comments near (before and after) seemed to insist that this was a player-triggered exploit.

Cause players said there was an exploit when we seen that +40 pistol on ktos. Other players argued against that saying that previous anvil exploit had long been fixed and no longer possible. IMC corroborated this by saying that they say no illegal activity on that weapon and it was legit. This supported the argument that that pistol owner was just astronomically lucky.

Enter this thread -months- later. Video proof of a bug/exploit/illegal activity. IMC comes on the post and says they checked the logs for that shield and saw no illegal activity (no related exploits in their words) on either iTos or Ktos.

Timeskip to IMC returns to this post to basically say that yes, there was a bug being exploited in that video and they then found 2 items on itos who were also being bugged like the ktos items were. And that the error, at the time of the announcement, was not corrected. OP was right, as if video didn’t already prove so.

Thread is a good read imo

That explains it for you?

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Some people are just natural born boot lickers

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10/10 drama
keep up the good work

After reading your edit (can’t remove my like) yeah, it explains so I’ll answer again since you posted something and then changed it into another entirely different meaning, sorry for saying this if this was accidentally.

That wasn’t a bug being exploited plus it’s not related to the +40 Pistol.

They didn’t say that. Go read again, I won’t scroll up to quote the Staff. Also, if you go back you’ll also see one of my posts. Go there and read the source URL.

You’ll see that this:

Is false. The source OP used to make this thread was posted AFTER they received an reply from IMC that the situation was verified.

Plus, I won’t care about discussing the definition of exploit or bugs, I’ll just use the correct ones instead because they make sense.

A bug, a defect, in the code was found and caused a situation where the intended procedure didn’t produce the expected result. In this case, the item weren’t removed due to server-side DB error.

An exploit, in a summary: taking advantage of something to manipulate the results be it caused by a bug, design flaw or limitation, didn’t happen here.

There’s no arbitrary or abnormal occurrences nor special triggers for that. The flaw happens naturally and was out of the control of either the player or IMC.

The basic and main condition for this complex bug to happen is that the weapon need to have 0 potential.

Now, look again:
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These both weapons have higher than 0 potential. The only exploit you can complain here is having multiple alt accounts for getting many Diamond Anvils with events, as stated by IMC analysis of their cases, and this isn’t related to the anviling process.

So if you really read through everything I’m pretty sure you understand now the difference of what a bug is and what an exploit is.

Also I’d expect you to have read both the itos and ktos announcements and see that 2 of the affected items actually were previously destroyed properly on further fails. Proving it further that it happened out of the control of the players.

With even deeper reading and understanding you’d be expected to read about the error code: 9 description where it becomes clear that the “Item Locking” state was in an inconsistent state. While we can argue that someone with deep knowledge of the game server structure could find the exact reason I can provide a counter-argument that the reason is out of the control of both entities and can’t be triggered arbitrarily by the player.

I hope this explains it to you and I’m not going to edit it to change this answer meaning.

Have a great day!

If you want to discuss the semantics of the terms used you can PM me. I don’t want to continue a discussion here that’s similar to arguing that squares are squares, not circles.

This answer hopefully shows you the way back to your first answer where “Told you so” meant “told you, players, there was no exploit”, not the opposite as your edited version.

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This is assuming that IMC didn’t screw up somewhere and what they are saying is true. Remember, Saviors, don’t believe everything you see on the forums. Especially when IMC is the one saying it :distinguished:

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I remembered, see this guy with 40 staff on ktos, he also have +22 +26 velcoffer set
and you’re talking about luck at 2 weapons
:tired:

it may be that both have 1 potential due to change in transcendence, IMC restored 1 potential in all equipments that had been transcended before the change

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Ive yet to see someone actually link this guy’s equipment from his character window. Till then you can just use an addon to link w/e equipment you want with w/e upgrade. Doesn’t mean it is real.

IMC already acknowledged the existence of the +40 pistol and staff in their nexon announcement.

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This shows how much the IMC does not know their own game, HOW on a server LAGADO AND WITH FREEZE, are there people with +30 weapons? THIS IS NOT NORMAL, stop treating your customers like idiots.

Assume that the problem exists and you do not know how to solve it, because this is not new at all! THE GREATEST BURRADE was set at +40, why not +15? NO MAX +16?

Do not you think? First time I see a game favor both gold sellers … PQP

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I edited my comment to add in “months later” to emphasize how time difference between us seeing the +40 pistol and THEN this thread showing up. That edit does NOT change the fact that this post was made AFTER images of the +40 pistol circulated, which is the point of my comment. Nice try tho.

I did not say IMC’s announcement had anything to do with the pistol. I’m saying that ppl said there was something being abused or some kind of bug after we seen the pistol. And ppl were saying that there wasn’t anything going on but some guy being astronomically lucky. This was corroborated when IMC themselves said they found no exploits or bugs being used. We later come back to see there was in fact some adverse method being used to enhance items even after IMC said there wasn’t any such thing. Facts. Whether it was an abused exploit or just a bug, imc didn’t catch it at first smd said there was nothing only to come back and say there was something after a player gave them video proof on this thread.

They literally said on this post they found no related exploits on itos or ktos after looking into this issue. The staff actually said ON THIS POST that there will be an announcement on ktos about this issue that will later be posted on these forums. Are we even reading the same posts here?

The 1 potential issue has already been addressed.

How mature of you, to write all of that just to end it with ‘I won’t bother replying here, pm.me’ when you could have pm’d me to continue this discussion rather than try to get the last word and leave the open discussion here on the thread.

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See the kr announcement, the numbers IMC posted matches. Plus it would have generated a server-side log for weapon destruction anyway, which it didn’t.

So, the point is that the post was made after the +40 pistol circulated, then what? I’m not answering to this part.

My whole post refers to:

In which you failed miserably to read. Yeah, that’s it, go back and read again.

And there was nothing being abused. Go back to my previous post, read what a bug and exploit is, see how the bug happened naturally out of the control of both entities.

Same as above.

It’s probably because of the same reason you didn’t catch your “smd” instead of “and”, until I called it out.

They said they found no abnormal activity = a.k.a. what happened in the DPK event or /pmp crash. There was no spread of the issue, it wasn’t controllable by players.

And I already answered it that the numbers matches by the announcement.

Read again, I won’t discuss what you consider an exploit or bug, which we ended up in a good place:

You don’t care about what either is and just want to make a pointless argument.

My argument is that no exploit happened but a bug still existed but was not abused nor controlled by players. In which case I can just assume you agree with me that no exploit happened, unless you want to discuss the semantics, which I won’t go deeply into.

In all, you’re arguing that other players claimed that there was no exploit or bugs related to anvil enhancement and saying to them “I told you so”.

But truth is, players simply claimed there was no exploit related to enhancement itself and that still stands true and you seem to agree with it, since you also consider the case of it being just a bug, although not explicitly. It’s not my fault you didn’t read their posts and just assumed what they were talking about.

And if we go even into deeper details, this is bug related to weapons not being destroyed when they should, it’s not related to enhancement itself, although the case is derived from the said scenario.

There are way too many things to complain and I agree that many things are bad, including this bug reported on this thread. But now it’s settled out, we know the details.

It’s time to move on, accept that you’re wrong just as I accepted after linking this very same thread to other people thinking it was a real exploit.

I also kept trying to gather info but unfortunately got answered by someone lying. Turned out it wasn’t an exploit. And even people with the addons assigned as possible culprits can’t reproduce the issue.

I’m not glad at being here to post things considering very specific details but that’s needed and I’m willing to take this role. It gets annoying to keep reading about people claiming bullshit for the sake of it.