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Annoying Ice Walls - Lets talk about it

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#1

I just want to know if I’m the only one who think this ice walls are a pain in the ass to all players, most part of the time.

I mean, I know its because it can cause status “Frozen” to the Enemy and then you can use some Ice Magic properly to Frozen State (I had a Cryo once).

But really? Look who is traped inside the wall this time.

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If my character was not so good for PvE I could have died because of this guy.
This is not the first time or the first cryomancer to do that. THIS Actually HAPPENS A LOT.

I lost the account of how many times I had the desire to call some cryomancers and cryomancer’s mothers so much bad words, but I dont say it, because it will come back to me since the game have a strict political correctines conduct, but some cryos just put a enormous ice wall inside a room and let it there being useless.
I just kill the mobs that are on my side and dont care about the others, I just give up.

But when it comes to Bosses, it’s even more annoying, because or they trap you close to the boss generally when you is about to avoid an attack, or they do the contrary and physical classes or small hitbox skills (as cure for example) can miss and you need to go around the ice wall if the boss walk a little far from the wall.

I’m not saying that it is useless, but most part just throw it at any time with no intention whatsoever and even make danger situations to others players. This is completely annoying.

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#2

Looks like the wall is properly helping you in the picture. I see no issue.

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#3

The good cryomancers always stack ice walls in a square under the boss.

#4

If he is helping me, I cant imagine when they don’t help(when they want to disturb for real). Must be instantly kill.

#5

whenever a cryo party member blocks my path, i just stop attacking the boss and let him deal with it.

we all know how small the hit boxes of swordsman classes are, and i assume they would understand why i slacked :stuck_out_tongue:

my point is he/she gets to do what he/she wants and i get to refresh my skill rotation while slacking its a win win for us both lol

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#6

Hey Ice wall is very useful. During The Harvest Festival Event, cryo will cast ice wall on plants that’s nearly done and use quest warp to jump on it.

11/10 Luna would rant about nerfing this skill :joy:

#7

This has cause me more trouble than help and seen boss getting down WAY slower when icewall was there this way.
I prefer to put it aside of boss, if the cryo isn’t a kino then if you got any sort of aoe spell that can proc icewall it can be worth it.
(The number of time I see dopple player using cyclone and ignore a perfectly place icewall or other type of aoe proc that could hit both)

Why not putting it under boss ? Because some spell and for some weird targeting reason some people might end up dealing 50%+ of their damage … To the wall itself instead of the boss, not everything can hit everything.

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#8

As a mouse user I hate it when cryos put icewall under the boss tbh. I can’t click the damn thing while it’s boosted up into the air. Depending on which class I’m playing, I can’t use some of my skills/autoattacks thanks to being unable to click on it, or my skills don’t hit properly because of the walls soaking up hits. It’s a huge pain.

I wish they’d just change the icewall mechanics so it doesn’t boost things into the air… like make it so monsters always get pushed away and can’t pass through the wall, or make them “use up” the wall when a piece is placed directly underneath them and they get frozen for the duration of the wall piece.

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#9

This happened to me at least twice these past few days so I know that feeling. Just wait for them to throw everything before nearing a boss or don’t go near your partymates if you really want to hit the boss.

#10

yeah, as I said I just stop fighting when this happens, when I’m without exp tomes or buffs I just get out of the Event, but I wanted to know if it was just me or someone else feel the same about Ice Walls without any purpose.

But what I most dislike is when a cryo trap me or other player close to the boss. The bosses from saalus convent for example are more strong, if it happens to a weak player, he can fall for nothing.

Is one of few skills that really can Intrude on other player life.

#11

whenever my teammate ( insta dungeon) gives out an ice wall
i stop (im a wiz) i drop meteors and ■■■■
ice wall is good, unless the user is already jinxing his/her teammates
also reminds me of boku no hero no academia lol

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#12

Whenever i play my cryochrono alt and do daily dungeon runs, I rarely really use icewall unless we were having a dps problem. and whenever i did, I’m hopeful that my teammates know what to do with icewalls. because most of the time, they don’t.

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#13

well atleast that guy bother to make a square ice wall unlike others sigh… they just cast it making a long fcking straight wall ended up blocking…

off topic: those brand spanking new chaplains please for the love of vakarine stop using deploy capela PLEASEEE!!! stopp… it overwrites many of our buffs (specially pardoners buff)

/endrant

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#14

yes, its what most part of them do unfortunately, just to spam the skill.[quote=“kyokushen, post:13, topic:364137”]
stop using deploy capela PLEASEEE!!! stopp… it overwrites many of our buffs (
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I dont use it dont worry. I havent spent any point yet on this skill. But, good to know. I dont knew that.

#15

Those who simply cast a straight line lvl 15 ice wall between the melees and boss, dont like those cryos at all.

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#16

Tbh not even sure how you end up actually inside the IW.

-The long ice wall is trash, only reason i can come up with; is that the person wanted everyone to hit it.
-The second picture with the square is pretty good. Why?
+if the cryo is a kino he can swap the boss to be inside.
+common reason for the square is so you can just AA the wall while being protected from melee.

I do understand it from a dopple point of view since they would prefer to just use their skill over spamming AA,

PS: IW+PP makes most dung boss nothing more than a Meme.

#17

The devs should edit the wall in a way that in pve players can jump over it, but not in pvp. Players should not be able to stand on the wall though, that would end up in abuse.

Wall is also anoying when you’re just walking through town and some cryobozo’s are duelling in the streets.
I’m a cryo, but I chose a different cheese-tactic than cheesewall.

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