Hello guys !
I’m really wondering what between sw1/hl3/barb1/doppel 3 and sw1/hl1/barb3/doppel 3 will perform the best for ET and other end game PVE content ?
it looks like HL3 gives more sustainable DPS while barb3 is more about burst and lack filler skills , but for actual people playing those builds how does it feels in PVE late game content ?
i will read every answer carefully and gladly
thanks you guys!
PS : are those build the current best damage wise in PVE for swordsman?
hard to say. I think if you are not that high end and you have another melee class in the party, B3 is better since it is very “supportish” for a DPS build while not being ping based. I think HL 3 works more if you can afford more weapon and ping, the reason why HL3 could outdps B3 builds is because B3 has too much set up time needed while HL3 would usually have1 rank on Barb for a 15 seconds cleave debuff anyway, so they tend to combo straight up any boss, while skyliner with a good ping is very good.
Another thing is that, extending cleave debuff with warcry is pointless. even though it would be extended to 15 seconds with 1 cleave, the crit buff from cleave is still 5 seconds, so you still have to cast cleave again, which would replace that 15 seconds cleave back to a 5 seconds cleave. It’s more of extending other class debuff (like doppel debuffs) i think.
What I have been thinking is that they design Barb 3 for STR fencers though. They have 250ASPD from Frenzy, completely removing the need for DEX ASPD (most of fencer skills has ASPD). Extends Crit debuff from Balestra and/or Lunge Slash debuff. Gives 100 Crit to complement Epee Garde.
you are the one smoking lol
why would you do warcry at the end???
It give physical attack, reduce enemy defence.
And 15 seconds is enough to blow all you important Damage skill wtf
Are you sure only barbarian skill gets its debuff extended?
you see my class is a sword 3 barb 3, my only way of bleeding (the skull debuff icon) is Thrust attribute against a stunned target, which has a 5 seconds duration, the moment i printscreen it was at 2 second remaining which was extended to 12 seconds. This is a proof that warcry extend NOT ONLY ON BARBARIAN SKILL (LOL THERE ARE LIKE 2 or 3 threads showing this, one with doppel the other with Dragoon)
and I’m pretty sure that Fencer epee garde increases you Total Critical Damage by 50% not increase your Critical Attack stat by 50%. I mean if that was the latter? what’s the point of that buff? Highlander has a passive that increases Critical attack by 50% when wearing 2 hand sword, and if that was the case, then doppels actually have epee garde as a passive??? LOL
Nevermind you are the best, troll the guy
HL3 does way better overall. B3 is mainly for mobbing
Im getting sick of this threads.
In ET YOU WILL HAVE A DAMN CHRONO!!!
HL3 GIVES YOU A SH!T THEN.
The Physical atack gain from war cry make your Doppel skills way way way more Powerfull then your rank 4 Hl3 skills.
Besides Seism is like 400-500% weaker then skyliner+crosscut combo.
And dont come me with stupid armor break that last for like 3 seconds and dont even reduce all the deffense -.-
Besides Sw3 builds are the best anyway!
Is this what this build is about? http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/6t848puf1p/
I went after this one http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/cbauwcc9hj/ but after reading the first i think that i should specc my second swordie to have barb with warcry he makes very good points.
sword c3
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Why c3? Arent you getting full uptime with chron and sw2?
You get the Attribute for longer uptime just with C3 for pb.
You could max gun/conc and get double slash on c3.
Can you make a video to show the [ - Increases duration of all Barbarian debuffs by 1 second per attribute level when affected by the [Warcry] debuff-] , cause when I use crosscut combo the duration still 10 second , thank for reading and if you can make a video to show
It’s simple for me:
Highlander C3: Best DPS for Boss raids, fucused attack.
Barbarian C3: Less DPS, but greater mob control.
I have 2 chars, one SW2>HL3 and other SW3>Barb3… Both are strong, but as I said, Barb is better with lots of mobs and Highlander is better with bosses.
My main character is HL3>Doppel3, with Doppel I balanced lack of mob control of Highlander and archive an excellent mixed class.
It works for barb and doppel debuff and since it needs Barb3 to take u won’t have hl crosscut combo.
Barb is better dps with chrono support hl maybe without it because u get a strong filler
so is only work with Barb debuff and Doppel debuff , thank:smiley:
