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About venom pricing

So i was wondering, why a dagger that is worse than karacha for 90% of classes cost freaking 7 millions?

i was looking for pay 2.5m for the recipe wich seems reasonable but sellers call me noob,get lost, die on fire, etc…

maybe we need some price enligthement and stop valuing Dilgeles so higth? Im from Ferdimian btw.

Also more as a question and less complain, how much is worth a animus recipe/crafted?

Less gun users on my server bu manamana about 5 mil :confused:

We’re talking at least 6 mil on Orsha. I know a finished venom sold on the market for 11mil and it was up less than a day, so it could probably go for more.

Dilgele is a broken item in the marketplace used by goldsellers. That’s why you always see alchemists shout or people that have a lot shouting for alchemists, because you make various potions with it.

I don’t know for certain on a finished animus but if I were to guess it’s probably a little less than petamion.

less than a normal pentamion? or a max pentamion?

i still dont get why that dagger is so expensive, everyone rush that dungeon everyday for the 6 cubes, animus being expensive as heck makes more sense because is the only drop of an entire dungeon and it cost less than a farmeable pentamion…

this is madness.

No it’s because everyone rushes that dungeon and there are still so very little of them, that makes it ultra rare. When it’s the only drop or from a handful of stuff it makes the recipe less rare because when something comes out of the box that isn’t talt or card it will be more than likely that. 190 has a shitton of different drops. It’s a good weapon that can be used by everyone like pumped up version of arde dagger so if people get it, they’ll probably keep it, making it more rare on the market.

You could do a price check in shout to see what people are offering for Animus. If I’d hedge a guess, on my server I’d say since max peta is 12-14mil and people use Animus as their final instead of peta (but less people use it so less demand) I’d start off trying to sell it for 8 then don’t go below 6. You could get more if it’s not around and someone really, really wants it too, however. You can also start off higher in shout, since there’s no risk of losing money trying to sell it unlike the market.

You could maybe trade a finished animus for venom recipe if someone really wanted the animus and not their venom.

waw ur server prices are so messed up, notice that you can get 12 pentamions everyday whit enougth luck, and max one recipe that drop from same thing at same chance than venom cost 1.5m.

a finished animus for a venom recipe lol omg, sure ur not trying to sell some venom recipes?

too bad for my class the venom is a little bit better than karacha, because obtaining this dagger is geting anoying.

Petamion isn’t the only thing that drops in 130. There’s at least 3 different gems, ruby, opal, zicron, the knotted armband among the petamion. But the only thing good there is the actual petamion, so no one really likes to farm it. Its more profitable to farm 190 because there’s a lot of good drops there, and because people farm it, most of the recipes cost less.

What’s weird is that max peta recipie is less than petamion recipie as far as rarity goes from the drop, but since hardly anyone has the petamion yet and dislikes farming 130, you end up with more people having max peta recipies instead of petamion ones.

Also if you wanna know since I have both and am either using them or a guild mate uses them, the petamion drop comes from harpy cube only. The venom only comes from the dog cube. So even though there’s 2 different cubes in those dungeons, there is still only a chance with 3 cubes a day.

eh no, the pentamion drops from necroventer at 10%. also there is a necklace is seelus missions that give +13 to all stats that also drops in evac and is free.

ppl on this game is just bad at tasing stuff.

also you can reroll every cube twice, wich means 3 chances per cube. Where do you think ppl get all these talts? xD

Necroventer drops arde dagger in the 90 dungeon. 130 is with harpy is where you get petamion. Idk about the world bosses, but I know for sure about those dungeon drops because I’ve personally gotten them. (XD I know I’m lucky).

You can reroll if you want to waste the money, but I wouldn’t recommend rerolling if only because sometimes when you do that everyday, you end up wasting the money you could’ve bought the item for. I personally never do it.

Venom price is that high not only because recipe is rare. Go collect geppetto leaves, to find out why Venom price is on this level. And “a dagger that is worse than karacha for 90% of classes” is not true at all - they both meant for different mob types, so in generall you need to have venom AND karacha. And Karacha is MUCH MORE easier to get btw.

why would you want venom and karacha lol, the poison just apply if you hit whit the dagger (for that is good on my char, i hit whit the dagger) and while karacha has bonus damage on medium type venom totally suck vs plate.

Karacha is just better than venom.

If ur telling me that you want venom for the 8con ill have to laugth abit.

Venom IS a bad dagger, and ISNT that hard to get ( as sayd same chance than max pentamion that cost 1.5m).

There is no reason at all, for it to cost 7 millions.

Pretty sure the drop rate are not 10%. Killed more than 85 necroventer(world boss) did not get a single petamion. However , Max Petamion drop rate are 10% from ellaganos(world boss)

Welp both dagger suits different builds or classes imo. Karacha gives 11dex while Venom is 14con. Hence, making the dex bonus pretty useless for wiz/cleric users. Don’t forget Karacha is pretty easy to craft compared to Venom. Those drop rates might not even be accurate.

At the end of the day, its all depend on the supplies and demands. Especially whenever the supplies on market are gone, ppl would use this as an opportunity to raise the price until more sellers undercuts each other again(supplies).

RNG jesus can be a b1tch sometimes, 10% means that you get 10 each 100 on average.

Noob or just trolling? I’d just think you are noob, so try to explain.

I’m using venom and karacha on different mob types as w3e3wl. The idea is that Venom and Karacha(Arde) gor diffenent elemental damage types. Look at this table: ELEM_DAMAGE In general, Venom is good against earth-type mobs (using it on most of bosses too), Karacha is good on frost mobs. Not sure if the difference is big for all classes, but it surely is for my class.

p.s. Venom got 14 con, not 8 :slight_smile:
p.p.s. There’s not really much eq on this game. So it’s really easy to collect all eq you might need.
p.p.p.s. 7m is not as huge sum as you imagine. To level some attributes to 100 lvl you might need 100m++

Wonder where you put the shield, im lvl 264 and got 24 millions, just dont wanna pay 7 millions for something that cost 2.

I dont know how noob i am but can solo the lvl 260 world boss in storage that is always free because no1 dares.

so go whit ur " im pro cause switch daggers" somewhere else.

lol. It seems you dont really looked at Venom components. For the time you can get that 42 (if I’m not mistaken) geppetto leaves for Venom you can farm that 7M in solid silver. That’s why price is so high.
You dont HAVE to get both Venom and Karacha, if you are not aimed to have the best DPS on all mob types. So you can run with karacha on fire-type mobs, or use shield on them or anything.
Was just trying to explain why the price is what it is.
Venom is not ultimate, but it’s just better than karacha on many mobs, so it’s your choise to buy it or not.