Tree of Savior Forum

About Trade and RMT (complains and suggestions)

General Discussion
#1

If you are new to the game first you should know the following:

  • You can’t trade without Token.
  • With Token you only have 30 trade/month (1 per day!)
  • With Token you only can trade with other Token players.
  • They are selling account storage for real money!!! (Team storage)
  • Buying an item in auction shop, trading, or moving through team storage causes -1 item potential. (you need item potential for enhancement).
  • Item with potential 0 becomes untradable.
  • You only can put ONE item in auction shop and you lose 30% of money (5 items and 10% with Token)

In iCBT2 we had free trade and personal shops.

• Why they removed free trading?
In theory to fight gold sellers.

• Reality?
All is for $$$ (and some part to fight RMT)

With free trade and/or personal shops, you can trade an item to someone, and someone to an alter.
So, IMC can not abuse you selling team storage function.

• What’s going on?
Massive rage.
IMC look and think the reactions of YOUR CUSTOMERS (when free release opens will be much worse).
You can’t do this in western market. You are destroying you image selling basic core functions of any mmorpg.

• You want to fight RMT?
Suggestions:

  • Put a level requisite to megaphone like 45
  • Ban (chat filter) every website announced in shout. (so, they can’t announce their websites)
  • Put someone to work monitoring the shout chat. (Kicking goldsellers and noting the websites) Yes, IMC should invest in their project.
  • Implement free trade like blade and soul. (Free for all but available at level 15 to avoid bots trading).

Note:

  • If a player can play the game, a bot can play the game, ALWAYS
  • If a player can get silver from auction shop, a gold seller can sell money through auction shop, ALWAYS.

More human work and less stupid restrictions to fight the real problem.

Losing potential for item is like a free punch on the face of everyone with no reason. It is ok in the enhancement system, but losing potential selling, trading and moving through team storage???

What should be:

  • Free trade for everyone with a SOFT LIMITER. (as I said, like blade and soul limited to lvl 15, or after you first class change).
  • COMPLETELY REMOVAL of losing potential feature (except with grade enhancement, of course).
  • FREE TEAM STORAGE. (Seriously IMC, this bad for you, for you money, for your customers, for customers money and nothing for gold sellers).
  • Tweak free/token auction shop restrictions, they are very high.

PD: Some items like gems are untradable. Why?
Why do you destroy the economy slowly? Why a single player experience in a mmorpg??
We want a healthy system, seeing gems in auction shop, trading with friends, saving some items for an alter (without losing potential and behind a paywall, of course), etc etc.
But this ■■■■?

• Before you say they are not an ONG:
You forgot the cash shop when a premium hairstyle costs 20$???
More cosmetics and less abuse.

And one last thing for everyone incredibly scared about goldsellers.
PRIORITIES.

First a healthy game system, then fix issues.
If you face a problem destroying the health of the game you are doomed.

@GM_Francis @GM_Sebastian @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Ines @STAFF_J @STAFF_John @Staff_Julie @STAFF_Shawn

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Trade not allowed
#2

Something I haven’t seen anyone comment on is how making trades possible on a free widespread level would cause people to complete their Collections too easily. Imagine friends do all the grinding work and just trade their friends all the materials that they need. Would defeat the purpose of Collections and have it to be an achievement.

#3

They need to discover first the collection item, item what is untradable.

#4

Bump :triumph:

/givemetrade

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#5

Don’t make excuses for the game’s horrible trading system. Are you seriously trying to say that we should remove all trading because people might finish their collections too fast? Its a basic feature of a mmo, its not something that should be restricted at all. Like @riwerv1 people still have to discover the collection item first and that item is untradable.

Trading is something that should be available to all, it shouldn’t be hidden behind a massive paywall. As of right now it cost about 18 dollars to be able to trade, and mind you it doesn’t even give you unlimited trade you get 30 trades a month which is even more ludicrous.

#6

Additionally, you can trade collection items with Token :sweat_smile: (Or buy them in Auction House)

Now is worse because you can “cheat” paying?
Is a nonsense xD

#7

Exactly, how is it any better if its hidden behind a paywall. So now only people that have the money to fork out to buy the token can ‘‘cheat’’ too complete their collection. Let the trading be free, no bullshit and hoops and loops to try and ‘‘combat’’ bots and silver traders, which in the end wont work since they find they way around the systems. Since at the moment this trading restriction only hurts players like you and me, i just wanna be able to trade with my friends. I can’t surprise people with gifts or help them farm for something.

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#8

Good luck getting those 2 Tanu Flowers each for you and your friends’ collections… Game penalizes you too much for playing with friends with its horrid loot distribution system and lack of trade.

#9

I saw this on Reddit yesterday, they suggested to have free trade but increase the lvl requirement to 50 (for shouts as well) and 3rd class. It bugged me too that when I found some nice items i couldnt give them to my mates because they couldnt trade.

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#10

Except that’s what friends do. We work together in an mmorpg to help each other out. Also, many collections still have rare components

People are still able to buy those same collection materials on the auction house for large amounts of silver from other players. I don’t see what you’re getting at.

Do not defend the current state of the game. It is unacceptable.

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#11

This!

It is very frustrating playing with friends, wanting basic social interactions and can’t because/defended by “bad decisions” , “Antisocial arguments”, “abusive systems” etc.

I’m really surprised that IMC does not realize how is failing

And I will be the first to leave the game if for release things have not changed

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#12

Bumperino because new players should see it before playing the game.

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#13

Yeah the way things are right now, the game feels very unsocial. I can’t trade with my bf, i can’t run dungeons with him, or i can but we have to que up at the same time for the maximum exp gain and hope we end up in the same group, its a really strange system. I just wanna have fun with my friends in the mmo we have been waited years for. :frowning: And right now the fun is being crushed by all of this.

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