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A Real Wonder : Mystical Cube

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@STAFF_Max

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pls make it atleast 30 days opening guarantee got practonium
its 30 days waiting zzzz
my char 4 month already didnt get practo
and its 3 char -_-

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Willing to inform your suggestion to PrinceKen to read and need to get his ideas regarding your comments :smiley:

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suggestion : how about “pseudo-random number generator” ?
PRNG? what’s this? :


well… it looks fun tho…

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Most idiotic reason:

And in the end, there are better ways to make it available, also, due to the unstable economy, loss of player base and whatever else comes with all of this, who is casual have to get his ass handed to time and possible lose the cube.

I’m not casual but not hardcore either (I wonder if there is a mid terminology for that).

The lack of a good design in the gear part, specially for R8 cause even more problems, you don’t see white bracelet or necklace after 220, instead you get some hard to get things, that will either help or not depending on the build.

For me, the main issue is, the game is nowhere fun at the current end game:

  • Repetitive gameplay.
  • Lack of easy to medium difficult acquisition low tier gear for the content (white and blue).
  • Hard content that require expensive gear or at least need the player to waste millions.

If it was for something like a special dungeon/mission/raid I would agree, but it’s open world content, quests that we want to do, not some ultra rare gear.

Also for the pract, it could be transferred to a sort of dungeon type map, you talk to the npc for the quest and he send you somewhere to kill a boss, that of course need a group.

The dungeon could be in sections that need to be unlocked by gimmicks or sub bosses.

I won’t be giving too much specifics because I’m not in the mood.


Thanks May for bring this to light (for me at least) since I don’t bother with dev blog.

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Do you guys even realize this is not supposed to be the end game, but more like mid game?
If it gets like this at level 330, the hell will it be at level 600?

Maybe you realized you won’t reach them, hmm.

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PrinceKen : There are a few ways to get the best equipment for Rank 8 content. Most of it can be obtained from end-game content such as the Earth Tower. However, we wanted to give the players that can’t enjoy that content a way to catch up. That’s why the Mystical Cube was created. A way for players, with a bit of luck on their side, to catch up with hard-core players. However, since Practonium is a core ingredient for crafting some of the best equipment for Rank 8 content, we had to set it at really low chances so it wouldn’t trivialize the effort that the hard-core players put into clearing end-game content.

First of all, many thanks to @STAFF_Max for posting the dev/designer interview Prince_Ken. You are awesome :3

While I do understand that gaining such a powerful ingredient fast is detrimental to the game as it unbalances the time invested by players who spend their time farming ET for end game equipment, I feel that more can be done to minimise the negative feelings felt by players who waited day after day for RNGesus to bless them with the purple ball of fuwa fuwa.

Suggestion to change mystical cube

Change Mystical Cube interaction into pick a number mini-game. In Mystical cube case, pick a number from 1-50. If the player picks the correct number, he/she will get the fuwa fuwa, parade it and call for a celebration. :3

If a wrong number is picked, the player will be rewarded with potions as before and try again 24hrs later. In the following day, the number to pick decreases by 1. So day 2 will be 1-49 , day 3 1-48 so on and forth. Just like how we have now, ultimately the player will get the fuwa fuwa.

Choosing to do it this way does 2 things. First by revealing a finite set of numbers to the player, it drives a positive connotation to them that as long as they ‘gacha~ed’ correctly, they can get the fluff earlier, if not even with the worst of luck it is 50 tries later. The game can dress this like real mini game with the gacha animation too.

Second is with a finite number like that, it allows the developers to create more content for the players. Make use of the numerous NPCs in the game, give out long daily quests just like the merc quests. For players who have spare time, they can engage these quests to gain 1 extra chance per day to reattempt the number cube.

Ultimately, it gives some form of control to the players, it makes them feel less disappointed as 1) they can see improvement and 2) they can somehow control their ‘luck’.

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Thank you @STAFF_Max it was funny and informative at the same time! :slight_smile:

May I suggest you to do the same with transcendence in the future?

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Feel free to tag me at any time :smiley:

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Honestly guys idk why this is still a thing, endgame progression should not soley be based on an RNG cube. The average player spends atleast 3 weeks at lv330 with a lv170 or lower weapon b/c they are forced to re-roll that stupid cube for nearly a month. This needs flat out removed, characters should be handed a practonium directly as the quest reward.

Do you guys even see the Steam Charts, honestly, the numbers drop every month, again and again. We tell you plainly when something is god awful and you just ignore everything, how long do you honestly think this game is going to last with this behavior, youre down to what, 3.6k players?

600 people a server, half of those are bots and afk shop npcs, hope you enjoy ignoring all the feedback b/c your going to be staring at 2k players in another 2 months, then youll be forced to rush out rank 9 in a massively broken/buggy state, that will give you 1.8% gain, and after that itll be right back to the red and the game will be shut down within another 6 months.

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I think the cube is fine, but we need 2 or 3 ways to get this >.<

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However, we wanted to give the players that can’t enjoy that content a way to catch up. That’s why the Mystical Cube was created. A way for players, with a bit of luck on their side, to catch up with hard-core players.

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@STAFF_Max One thing left unanswered? What becomes of the expired unstable cubes now?

Would you expect softcores to reroll then?

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sad, but this too shall be

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Most practonium weapons are better than Solmiki and Earthtower weapons so in the end everyone needs practonium.

this is a bad excuse since it is already hard enough to farm other materials needed for the weapons.

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Earth Tower Weapons. Good joke indeed.
Do you guys even know how long it takes to get these? :joy:
Depending on luck an average of over 100 times of 20 floors. I can understand not getting it for 1 time (no gear for a lucky run or whatever stupid reason) but 100+. Nice joke indeed.

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Taking into account that 330 is the level cap at the moment, I’d like to take a further view here:

There are a few ways to get the best equipment for Rank 8 content
However, since Practonium is a core ingredient for crafting some of the best equipment for Rank 8 content

Equipment basically sums up in: endgame when cap was 280 and end game when cap is 330, how can he establish a comparison of what is the best equipment since the only rank 8 equipment are purple and orange weapons?

PrinceKen : I do think that we need to tweak the current settings a bit in order to make it less inconvenient for the players. These are some things that we are currently considering.

  1. The Mystical Cube can be located in the Cube section of a player’s inventory, while the Unstable Cube is in the Item section. We plan on making it so that they will always be in the Cube section
  1. We are currently developing a warning UI that will tell you if an item is about to reach it’s expiration time.

This measures won’t give back the chance to obtain a practonium back.

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They goofed up by not mentioning a way to get the expired Cube back.

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Most practonium weapons are better than Solmiki and Earthtower weapons so in the end everyone needs practonium.

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Cries because I decided to change to a fencer

@Staff_Max any news related to rapiers? :stuck_out_tongue:

Hello @STAFF_Max I am so sorry, but I do have to come here and by this post show the sad truth that no one expects!

@STAFF_Amy cheated to get a Practonium before you!

The reward from Refugees of Michekan Forest(7) is always a Mystical Cube (id=642809) that always turns into Unstable Cube (id=642810) that can never give a Practonium, this cube though can give the similar Mystical Cube that gives another Unstable Cube that then make it possible to get a Practonium. This means, the minimum possible tries to get a practonium is: two tries!

I solved the hidden riddle on that announcement, shall I get some extra luck with my Practonium now?

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