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A Detailed Patch Timeline Observation KToS vs iToS by Wolfy

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If you guys wonder why people who usually is in “charge” of bringing information tend to be the first to leave, there is a reason to that. The content and patch release is extremely frustating to observe and analyze. And here i will bring you a detailed timeline on how i observe ToS patches.

The huge content gaps on the international version and lack of any kind of hype becomes frustating as time goes. Eventually causing the usual bleeding of players and many problems that arise with it.

Im gonna time weeks starting on the wednesdays for convenience. And use the fishing update as starting point, since we have it for a good while.

June 28 - July 5

KToS:

Patch Changes:

  • Fishing content
  • DPK removal
  • QoL updates
  • UI update
  • TBL temporal closing announced

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From 06/29 to 07/06. Reasons, duration and compensation announced.

iToS:

We get a developer blog talking about the changes mentioned above.

Patch for the week:

  • Monthly TP Spending Limit Applied
  • Wedding Bells CLOSING
  • Sidekick Booster CLOSING
  • Some bug fixes.

July 5 - July 12

KToS:

Content Patch for the week:

  • Miko and Shinobi quest rebalancing.
  • Mercenary road Episode 2. (Lesser Mercenary Costume reward)
  • Tooltip and other bug fixes.

  • Healing Service changes. It allows to recover items that you may have “unintentionally” lose. (Throw away, hit anvil at 0 potential, etc) with a limited amount of times per YEAR and linked to your korean ID.

  • July burning weekends with +100% compensation announced because last weekend burning event didn’t apply correctly. (Normally +50%)

iToS:

  • Encyclopedia of Masters chapters 1 and 2 released on the webpage.

Patch for the week:

  • NEW! Treasure of the Stone Whale
  • First-time Player Event: Get Ahead
  • Returning Player Event: Savior’s Pick
  • Active Player Event: Guess to Impress
  • Language Options for PT-BR
  • Bug fixes

Developer blog detailing content to come.

July 12 - July 19

KToS:

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  • TBL rework (3v3, schedules, balance, CC diminishing, etc)
  • ET armor exchange system added. (Free of charge for a week)
  • Rank 1 classes skill visual effect update. (Archer, Swordman, Cleric, Wizard)
  • Saalus convent rework. (1 entry per day per char, 3 cube with token, only the final boss drops stuff inside the convent, Convent and Lake removed, added castle mission, etc)
  • Armor efficiency update (Every armor defense value gets increased)
  • Some class icons update.
  • AI improvements. Necro summons duration added.
  • QoL skill improvements (skills range, durations and range)

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iToS:

  • Ways of the Pirates CLOSING
  • Fix to Shield Charge / Revenged Sevenfold

July 19 - July 26

KToS:

  • Improved details on Castle Mission (Saalus)
  • Klaipedia Goddess Vakarine theme (Evening Landscape)

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  • Fishing event CLOSED
  • Bug fixes. (Including Shield Charge / Revenged Sevenfold that was applied to iToS first)
  • 2nd notification on Adventure Journal update, alerting players to get every reward from Vaivora NPC before the update.

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iToS:

  • Reset Pack DLC
  • The problem of Instance Clear Voucher effects being removed due to Counter Spells or Detonation Traps has been fixed.

Fishing Developer Blog.

July 26 - August 2

KToS:

  • 2nd TBL rework (50% damage reduction, level 330, round time reduced, CC dimishing, Potion restriction, PvP specific skill balance, Rewards Added and separated from Uphill Defense store)

  • Monster Card System rework (+ Able to remove without penalty for a week)

  • Fishing improvements (reduced time, icons, UI, https://i.imgur.com/bkKolYN.png (?))

  • ET equipment exchange for free finished and added the proper values.

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  • Merc Ep2 ENDING.

  • Compass event ADDED.

  • Skill and misc. bug fixes.

  • Leticia cube way of adquiring changed.

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  • Developer blog explaining the team focus and objectives.

  • Summary: Focusing on stabilize the game before new content.

iToS:

  • Fishing update

  • DPK removal

  • TBL Temporarily Closed ( in order to prepare for the next content update ). No additional information.

  • UI Improvements

  • Summon Performance Improvements (magic attack influence)

  • Unidentified Weapon/Armor Cube Fragments

  • Field Bosses update.

  • Miko and Shinobi Advancement condition update.

  • Klaipeda “expanded”

  • Some skill balance and improvements.

  • Misc. Bug fixes.

  • NEW! Klaipeda Summer Festival

  • NEW! Gone Fishing

  • NEW! Ways of the Mercenaries

  • Treasure of the Stone Whale CLOSING

August 2 - August 9

KToS:

  • Klaipeda Evening Sky skin returned to the usual skin.
  • Companions obtained by advancing into specific classes will no longer be received in the form of a Companion Voucher after the advancement quest is complete.
  • Panto species changed from plant to beast.
  • Pet AI fixes (max distance, stuck)
  • August Burning Weekends announced to have +100% exp on holidays aswell.
  • Small bug fixes.

iToS:

  • Companions obtained by advancing into specific classes will no longer be received in the form of a Companion Voucher after the advancement quest is complete.
  • Small bug fixes.

August 9 - August 16

KToS:

  • More TBL changes (damage received reduced to 30%, scoring, bodies sliding, cloak, heal, einsof and r7f balance changes)

  • 2H mace added (Paladin circle 1 or Monk circle 1 attribute)

  • Configuration options added (Item for recipes pop up and Monster hit effect)

  • Compass event ep2 added. (Marine Penguin and diamond anvil rewards - 1 per team)

  • TBL bug hunting event. 20 people receives 200 TP by reporting TBL bugs.

  • Casting motion on certain skills improved. (Flame ground, fire pillar, ice pike, etc)

  • Lots of skill improvements and balance. (Double punch uses SP, Barrier damage redirection attribute, Swift Step duration increased to 300s, etc)

  • Misc. bug fixes.

iToS:

  • Notice alerting players about adventure changes to come and get the rewards

  • Developer Blog on AJ

  • NEW EVENT: Piece Back Mission
  • First-time Player Event: Get Ahead CLOSED
  • Returning Player Event: Savior’s Pick CLOSED
  • Active Player Event: Guess to Impress CLOSED
  • Ways of the Mercenaries CLOSED

August 16 - August 23

KToS:

  • Guine Pig food added
  • Tooltip, skill and misc. bug fixes.

iToS:

  • NEW! Ways of the Mercenaries Ep. 2
  • NEW! Ways of the Believers
  • Gone Fishing CLOSING
  • Klaipeda’s Summer Festival CLOSING
  • Leticia’s Secret Cube NEW EDITION
  • Guine Pig food added

August 23 - August 30

KToS:

  • TBL bug hunting event CLOSING

iToS:

  • Misc. bug fixes.
  • Developer blog posted

August 30 - September 6

KToS:

  • Dungeons starting and ending time changed. (Any instance dungeon starting time set to 10s, except Saalus Convent missions set to 30s)

  • Stone Whale event ADDED.

  • Compass ep2 CLOSING

  • Another Journey event CLOSING

  • Bug fixes.

  • Emergency Fix (09/01): Jump/Move keys wont cancel skill animations.

iToS:

  • NEW! Kivotos’ Compass Ep. 1
  • Piece Back Mission CLOSING
  • Bug fix: Skill Visual/Damage Effects.

September 6 - September 13

KToS:

  • Guild Rework (No templar guilds, emblems, funds, UI)
  • Adventure Journal Rework.

  • Monster card grimoire (?) added. (Summons a random boss of the specific card color on the field with a 100% chance to drop the summoned boss card. Can be killed under the same rules as field boss, up to 5 people get a reward)

  • Mercenary Mission Boss Randomizer added. (Siaulai = Blue card bosses, Mines = Purple card bosses, Seven vally = Green card bosses, Catacombs = red card bosses)

  • TBL improvements (Zoom increase, PvP related settings, more balance updates)

  • Area gimmicks added.

  • Monster race updated. (Several monsters have their race changed to something more fitting)

  • Some Sorcere available bosses to summon have their skill factos increased.

  • Templar skills rework, Lancer initiate change.

  • Reset package added to TP store (Single time buy)

  • Misc. Bug fixes.

iToS:

  • NEW! The Masters’ Unit
  • First-time Player Event: Get Ahead (Sep '17)
  • Returning Player Event: Savior’s Pick (Sep '17)
  • Active Player Event: Guess to Impress (Sep '17)
  • Ways of the Mercenaries Ep. 2 CLOSING
  • Ways of the Believers CLOSING
  • Misc. bug fixes.

September 13 - Today

KToS:

  • Hidden GM Find ! event ADDED
  • Bug Fixes
  • Developer Blog: 5th class balance patch - Cleric details

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  • Developer Blog: Guild Colony details

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iToS:

  • Developer Blog

  • NEW! Sidekick Booster (Sep '17)
  • Small bug fixes.

Conclusion: The game is perceived as non changing on our version of the game thus causing a lose on interest and hype, even if ktos has dry weeks they tend to not last too long or be covered by Ktest patches.

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#2

TOS has a long ways to go, but the pace KTOS is receiving content is actually really satisfactory. If ITOS were to be on a similar, or monthly model, I’d be content.

IMC right now (regardless of the reasons) is trying to go for the big update route, where many of the KTOS updates are implemented into less frequent, but larger updates. I don’t take issue with that model, and in the future when TOS is in a better place, I’d likely prefer it. The problem is our big updates don’t actually include enough content to be worth the wait. If IMC insists on the big update model, then they need to accommodate with the bare minimum bringing over every KTOS update up until that point, preferably KTEST content as well since we’d then have to wait again.

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#3

Having a test server alone makes a huge difference with player interest, I’ve played on ktest a few times myself and it’s really refreshing to test new content that may eventually go live. Wish we had the option too but I guess it would just be extra work for them to do a second test server (plus we generally get patches much after they go live on ktos anyways).

If anything it would be nice if they made it more accessible for non koreans to get on the korean test servers.

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#4

A test server, or simply opening the KTEST one up would be great. If it is a resource problem, I’d prefer them allocated towards updating ITOS and not towards a test server, but that may be a false dichotomy. I could see monetisation being a problem, and translation is a really big task for ITOS already, but a good idea is a good idea.

I enjoyed the bit I played on KTEST too, even looking through the files or on TOSGBASE is exciting.

#5

This thread make me so sad. And it just states a fact, there’s no space for opinions. That’s why.

Being 4 months without a real content isn’t paying out.

I had the idea of making a patch note timeline but never had knowledge and time to do it. Glad Someone else did it

#6

Feel like if we have a bigger translator group, we can accelerate the speed of bringing patches to itos.

#7

Correct, i tried to minimize my comments and just show what i see. This is not a problem tied to reactions or emotions or whiteknighting or doomknighting. But something that you just can show to others and they will figure out the issue.

So my hope is that @STAFF_Letitia @STAFF_Yuri @STAFF_Ethan or any other staff members will be able to also read and understand this issue in a clearer way. And be able to propose changes, because i know their limitations.

I can’t do anything beyond this.

#8

Nice compilation!
Despite the lack of actual updates iToS gets, the general overview still seem pretty active on the developer’s part. This PoV really allowed me to get a bird’s eye view and i can see we actually have quite a lot of dev blog/updates/plans. Just that they have not materialized yet. I feel guilty for being annoyed by last night’s patch :tired:

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#10

I believe the content is already with iTOS team, but the translation and set up is being worked on our side… Im having a hunch the team here in iTOS have not finished their planting of what kTOS have. And they have the resources. Prove that the content is in their hands just need to be released if finished.

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#11

Oh, this is another correct observation!

A reason why i’ve been marked as a whiteknight here before is by mentioning this. But you can see its quite obvious work is being done, just … not properly distributed.

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#12

well clearly imc’s strategy of bringing massive updates every 4-6 months at a time isnt working. hmm…

it makes me wonder why there would ever be bugs in the itos version after this much of a time difference. shouldn’t it work perfectly? can’t imc hire people to test/translate for free (or tp) if not? can’t they fire some people?

what the hell is the problem?? they have an entire community desperate to keep the game alive, and all i see is imc killing the game

#13

someone already done like me does in the past.

#14

they said they were waiting for there to be alot of content done to add it all in at once.
tbh it would be better if they just added in what they already finished it when its finished because it makes it look like theyre trying really hard and it will give more content and hype

#15

The answer is they lack of Manpower to work with the content.

That’s just my hunch, but even so the Gap between kTOS and iTOS is really far.

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