elsword is pay to win, this is a fact.
you are legit retarded
Just letting you know that Hakyu himself gave an interview and said the game is supposed to be casual.
Youâre the one QQing about it. <3
Also ToS is not a AAA title.
1 Like
skill rings, B-slot, IB costume set stat bonuses, raid dun reset tickets etcâŚ
Not to mention Ice Burner costumes sets provide a hefty 3-4digit stat boost even while still being unsocketed making it damn easier to minmax stats compared to regular event given costumes thatâll give yaâ some 2digit stat bonus.
Skill rings can be bought from the market. You can get them from events as well. Same thing for B-slot. Ib costume can be bought from the market as well.
Raid dungeon reset doesnât even matter for the normal player because it resets your score for the day anyways. You need to be strong in the first place for that, and Addâs dungeon has a better weapon that is easier to get as well.
@joeswaaz
Then prove me wrong. All you have done is spout nothing but your opinion and nonsense.
I, myself, have spent less than 40$ on that game, and I have a +10 weapon, +9 armor, a full IB set, as well as 80% min/maxed sockets.
In spite of elsword being pay to win, it is still WAY more successful than TOS. The logical conclusion then is that it must have some awesome features to make the game worth it to a lot of people despite the pay to win, especially compared to ToS. And oh hey, one feature it has that ToS doesnât is class resets. Jeepers, its almost as if such basic features can make such a difference that the game is still waaaaaaay more successful than ToS in spite of the heavy pay to win in it, hmmmm?
1 Like
All those cash shop stuff can be bought from players. As long even free players are able to buy cash shop items without cash, you canât really call it p2w. It is more like pay for convenience. I spent quite alot on IB beforeâŚand tbh in the end most of the time I ended up trading the unwanted IB for the one I want due to how hard it is to get them by yourself. It is easier to buy them using ED. Also, making money in Elsword is way easier than ToSâŚ
What is happening where am i?
No, elsword isnt p2w, it is farm2win.
Players who play that game without doing much in life when they have free time and participate in the events, they can do anything in there as long as they can farm and participate in the events.
The same thing applies to ToS currently. The player that can keep farming and farming will win no matter what.
Playing leads to win.
In a game that p2w is not realistic, there is time and money. You spend any of these, you get closer to the âwinâ.
P2w is when it gets really absurd to win without paying. Absurd is anything that is close to what PWI was and still is.
ToS farm2winâŚuughâŚ
10k dpk for monster gemâŚwhen you got close to 10k dpk, one random bot passed byâŚkilled a mob and took it 
How many people actually farm rare materials themselves? In the end cost and time wise, it is way more efficient to buy rare materials from cheaters.
IMC playing Tree of Saddist
Players playing Tree of Masochist
Botters playing Tree of Savior
The farm2win model isnât gonna work unless they do something to the dpkâŚ
5 Likes
uh well, you gotta admit it is still farm2win dont you 
well yeaâŚthe bots are the ones doing most farming works thoughâŚ
I actuallu though something. I myself do not farm them, i farm the silver so i can simply buy them.
In a way, this encourages the bots, so this farm2win model actually encourages afk farming, botting cheating etc.
Oh noes! 
Instead of class reset, how about cross classing?
Let us all have access to each others skills!!!
Why no pistol slot for wizzy?!
Why canât I have a useful pet!?
/hueee
1 Like
If you really want to be technical⌠ToS has been P2W via buying and selling tokens from the getgo. Itâs just an RMT people tolerate.
This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.
7 Likes
no wonder ppl call u retard and no respect uâŚur opening already say filthy casualâŚwell i guess those casual u mention is 80-90% of the TOS population nowâŚand those 80% player that make this game aliveâŚwhich i can say is keeping ur char aliveâŚwe dont need filthy toxic hardcore player like uâŚu can quit this gameâŚ1% toxic hardcore player like u wont make this game aliveâŚu free to leave to other gameâŚit effect nothing on TOS having u quit the game
1 Like
What is happening with these people getting triggered so easily i wonder if someone kicked in their leg in a way they would be unable to walk for four days long would actually calm them downâŚ
It isnât enough. I want an option to disable all quest chains pre-200 for a significant EXP boost when I create a character. Thatâs the thing that makes grinding tons of alts painful. You really canât skip most of the quests because EXP cards give you so much and theyâre painfully tedious. Honestly when one questâs exp cards is equivalent to like an hour of grinding⌠come on.
1 Like
Rerolling means losing millions invested into attributes.
1 Like
a vote for walls is a vote for freedom