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50,000 Kills Later~

Equip regular boater for increased chances. :^)

If this were true, then I’d have the boater by now. 147k kills dry and I’ve been wearing the normal boater since I started lol.

You guys are nutz… just for that hat Oo

That some serious Dedication i gotta admit …

sorry guys, it was all a prank.
those white boaters were not real, all photoshopped.
the one in game came from a hanaming drop. it was a secret until someone recently got one from hanaming.

jk. haha. keep hunting those infrorocktors.

I’m pretty much done once I hit 100k. That will be about 300k between 3 people and 0 boaters.

I’ve got a buddy helping me grind now, he also uses a QS and I changed to chronomancer to speed us up. About 130k kills between us. No hat :smiley:

93k on my QS. 10k on my chrono. The rest is buddy.

120k total, nuthin’
/20k©Rocktors

89000 kills

5 Monster Gems
5 Red Gems
5 Blue Gems
4 Golden Anvils
46 Exp Cards
514 Clubs
512 Rods
470 Bones
4347 Shells

Keep it up!

I’ve just started grinding 10,000 per day now. However, I’m mainly joining in to help the verification efforts, but I suppose I could use the golden anvils anyway.

12177 kills

1 Monster Gem
1 Golden Anvil
3 Exp cards
58 Bones
66 Clubs
68 Rods
566 Shells

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Wahahahahaha Tiny Tim rocks when you’re going crazy. That falsetto though…

Hat so rare and people have been killing 100ks that people are paranoid that it does not exist. Ease their pain and confirm it exists @STAFF_Ethan @STAFF_Ines @hkkim

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I’m wondering if there are some hidden conditions that we’re not aware of. For instance, say our weapon’s durability is zero, would that possibly affect the drop rate of items? (possibly as a bot countermeasure??)

This is all speculation, though. I’m just trying to think of conditions that might hurt our odds that we’re not aware of. Although, it is very possible that this hat has a .0002% or even a .0001% drop probability (it is hard to say). Some also likely question whether it even drops from infrorocktors, but I believe @Ingel’s post is legit:

Alright guys, I’m done. If someone else gets it let me know but I sent in a ticket to IMC. I’m getting too burned out from this game and I’m ready to quit just over this hat. It’s way too rare (rarer than 12 monster gems) and this issue needs to be fixed. So, it’s back to grinding my swordsman to C7 again.

Here’s the message I sent. Hopefully I won’t get a generic response.


Type of Bug : General gameplay / Item loot system.
Date/Time and Location : West Siauliai Woods from around June 16th to June 24th

Description:

Dear IMC,
I, and many other players across all of the servers have thoroughly tested the loot table for infrorocktors. During this past week of over 60 hours of farming this mob, I have gained not one boater. They are confirmed as a drop, and we all know its extremely rare. However, after getting 12 monster gems and not a single boater from over said 60 hours of grinding and 158,000+ kills, I have come to the conclusion that no matter how rare you guys say this item is because it’s ā€œbad luckā€ or whatever, it’s not. There has to be some way that this drop is bugged.

Statistically, there is over 600,000 kills of infrorocktors across all of the servers. Not one person has claimed to have gotten a boater recently. There’s a thread I will link below that discusses this. Some players including myeslf, believe that the drop is currently bugged as are some other items in the game. The reason for this is due to the items being able to be dropped a month or so ago. Some players have claimed to get the white boater within 1,000 kills. These claims are either false or they date back to a long time ago. I hope you, the support member or GM reading this considers that this isn’t simple bad luck. I’ve had an absolutely terrible gaming experience in wasting my life to get an item that most likely does not even drop at this point in time due to a bug or something else. I urge you to let the developers know or at least your team of GMs know so that this issue can be further examined. For example, set up a private channel for GMs and increase the drop rate to see if the item actually drops from the mob. And, if by some odd chance that the white boater does drop from testing, then I ask to lower the drop rate or make it a 100,000 kill achievement reward as it is infuriating to grind for an item you really want and not get it no matter how much you try.

And possibly at the very least, disclose to us information regarding any loot conditions (In example - killing infrorocktors at a certain time). This information will not impact our gaming experience in any way. Having IMC tell us information about the game is something the players really want, and it’s a huge fault in the IMC company to relay such information to its playerbase. I’ve nearly burned myself out from Tree of Savior just grinding for this. I’m currently the #1 infrorockor killer across all servers (or at least Klaipedia). I really don’t want to quit this game because I enjoy it a lot. But if I can’t get help over a small issue such as this, then I may as well consider taking my time elsewhere. I’m a veteran of ToS since the first closed beta and have funded your company. I hope you guys consider taking this message into consideration and leave me a suitable reply that will let me know whether or not this issue can be fixed as soon as possible.

Thank you,
- Hail-Hydra, Klaipedia
One small representitive of the white ribbon decoration boater farming community.

Steps to reproduce the issue :1) Go to West Siauliai Woods.2) Kill level 5 infrorocktors for an entire week.3) Get no boater.4) Please fix the loot system for infrorocktors.

Screenshots :
I have edited my storage chest’s inventory into the picture to make it only one picture.
http://i.imgur.com/wZiiaty.png

Other Links :
The mentioned discussion over this issue - 50,000 Kills Later~

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I’ve been thinking the same thing… here’s a list of ideas of what may be triggers:

  1. Ingel and that korean guy on the korean board both have reached 10 red orbs before getting the boater soon after. However, Ophaq has gotten 11 red orbs (but only 8 blue orbs, not sure how many he has now), so maybe it’s any time after you get 10 red or blue orbs, different for each player?.. NVM the legendary Ophaq has posted

  2. Only Wizard or Archer classes can get it?? (I’m farming with a warrior)

  3. This one is taken from my Large Panto Spearman hunting experience, I only got the antler horns after I passed the first place guy in number of kills. Ingel also got his Boater after he passed the first place guy on his server.

  4. Pray to the Statue of Goddess Zemyna on the map for a bountiful harvest before you start farming every day.

Can’t really tell, these may just be pure coincidences.

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I thought of things like that but it’s mostly pure RNG or the hat is just bugged. One theory I came up with according to Ingel’s drop rotation post is that it may only drop by a % every 100k kills and I simply missed that % chance because I was unlucky. If that’s true, then I’d need to farm 42k or more infrorocktors in order to get that chance again.

If that were really true though, then that would be absurd. No item should be this rare. I’m even starting to doubt the authenticity of the pictures where the hat is dropped and that they’re simply photoshopped. A friend edited a photo of mine like that with the infrorocktors at mage tower as a joke so it’s not impossible. The hat might not even drop from infrorocktors.

I don’t want to despirit anyone, though. Feel free to farm them because maybe it’s legit. But, I don’t want to waste any more time. I’ve farmed 60+ hours; roughly 8 days of my life. My swordsman would be level 200 by now. XD

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I definitely understand where you’re coming from; well, maybe I can’t say that yet since I haven’t killed nearly as many infrorocktors as you, but I’d likely draw the same conclusions after spending that much time grinding.

A .001% drop rate would be perfectly acceptable in my opinion, but not a .0002% or .0001% probability (assuming this item follows the standard drop conventions).

Anyway, Hopefully your ticket will yield us some more information.

I was more hoping its 100k DPK drop as reward for effort. I’m pretty much burned out after 106k kills.

Also, there’s a few KToS farmer that got the hat with swordsman and cleric so not sure about archer and wizard only drops.

Question guys, did you kill the monsters continueosly? until you reached a good 25k monsters? as you’ve mentioned, or was it done by skipping duties?

I killed about 20-30k a day for the first 100k worth and then after that it was about 10-15k a day. I could see how it could drop based on a # killed in one session instead of different times but whose going to sit at their computer and kill 50k+ infrorocktors continuously. If it were designed in a way where it drops on a # killed in a single session basis then that’s just poor game design lol.

And I never noticed any difference in drop rates whether it was 5k in the day I killed or 30k.

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I suspect that drops in this game are based on channel total kills. Gems/Orbs seem to drop every 10k kills or so.

I believe the hat drops at >55k channel kills, since I farmed 55k in one sitting and still didn’t get it.

Also, since the hat is so rare, I suspect that the kill counter resets during maintenance, which would mean you need to kill >55k on 1 channel within the week.

This is all speculation so please take it with a grain of salt.