Is this build any good? Any suggestions to what might be changed here?
yup good build, might rival that of the sword 3 high 1 barb 1 dopel 3
Swordsman:
Bash 3 is important
HL:
No problems
Barb3:
wait for the patches to arrive, but what’s important is
5/5 Pouncing
10/10 Warcry
10/10 Frenzy
at least 1 seism
at least 1 cleave (more is better, you spam this a lot)
Stomping kick might be good later on, as well as giant swing – this is why you save points
1/15 Helm chopper only, damage is bad, mainly used for stunning.
Doppels:
Put at least 10/15 DOV, but 15/15 is really what you want
15/15 Cyclone, this is what makes you a good aoe dps
at least 1 punish, paired with bash+c3 attribute can be deadly.
6 Redel at least
Max Zornhau is bad
Thank you for the input. Here’s the changed plan according to your suggestions.
Sw
-Added bash
Barb
-Maxed frenzy, war cry and pouncing. Saved 8 points just incase, leaving cleave and helm chopper at 5 until the patch. Redistributing the points for any boosted skills after patch
EDIT:
-Didnt get pouncing earlier due to that long 81s cooldown. is the long cd worth it?
Doppel
-Took punish
-Maxed cyclone and DoV.
-Didnt get dpe cos i think its a bit too risky. Or should i get it?
-Should i have put more levels on Zwerchhau and Sturtzhau instead of on punish?
Hmm
for SW, it’s better to sacrifice concentrate than gungho
you need at least level 3 gungho to take the attribute. You can do 3 Gungho / 4 concentrate.
but if it were me I’d just scrap concentrate, it’s a low flat-low scaling damage bonus, while taking a buff slot.
30+ hits over 10 seconds, good base damage, has other mutlipliers, yes it is worth.
just put 1 point on it, you can put the rest elsewhere.
Don’t forget to take Punish: Earthquake when you get to doppel c3, this will be your bread and butter skill aside from Cyclone.
as a reminder you need:
Level 6 Zucken
Level 6 Redel
Level 6 Zornhau
to get their multi hit attributes, Redel being the best out of the 3.
DPE is a nice one point skill, use it when a boss is dying on missions on let your party kill it, you will get the bonus.
forgot to mention, if you are willing to -risk- and use skill reset, your doppel can be better because you can learn attributes and reset, then leave them at level 1.
Even with Barb recent buff, sw3 is comparable with new barb3? I just got to r7 and I felt barb3 gained so much.
Hello,
This is the build that I am using.
Swordman:
Bash 3 is important for Punish (C3 Doppelsoldner’s skill)
Barbarian:
max frenzy, warcry, cleave and pouncing.
Doppel:
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DOV max this if you like, or leave points for punish.
because DOV is needed to take damage to stack one time, you will reduce 150% defense at the end. However, it’s not easy to stack it to be 15, you most likely stack it to be 10 as usual. In level 15, you will have one minute duratin. Well, it depends on what you want to play, you could spend 15 points for a risky play or a stable play. -
Max Cyclone, zwerchau, and Strutzhau.
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take Zornhau, Zucken, and Redel to be level 6 first, learn the attribute and reset it to be level 1. Because they are different compare with level 5, the attribute will not disappear.
6/ Zwerchhau: (learn the most OP Attribute and use skill reset potion to reset the points. Then you just need to learn this skill level 1
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I don’t get this part…Is there any attribute other than increase damage? I don’t see in the simulator.
It’s zornhau, zucken and redel. zwerchhau has none
I accidently copied it, removed it. Thanks
I’m taking a similar route. But im planning to go HL2>barb2>Doppel3.
Wanna have cross guard at lvl 10, not sure but gonna try the HL2 skills. Personally I don’t aim to get pouncing so leaving barb at C2.
Hello, Sir -
Just a question, I’m really new at Swordmans, but why is it better to sacrifice Concentrate that Gung Ho (- Def)?
Gungho scales with attributes and every other multiplier that applies to physical attack.
Concentrate only scales with Str and Dex but is still very low and is a flat amount.
Cross Guard is not that good since it have a small duration, only few seconds, instead of peltasta’s shield guard wich you can maintain as long as you want. You won’t tank anything with it, you will just waste your time and mana.
And you do not have a lot of pierce skills in this path to have a good use of stagger debuff.
Add to it, not taking Barb3 with incoming patch is just awful with new Wild Nature and Warcry changes.
Here is a good build if you do not want to use any kind of Skill Reset potions.
Optional choices:
Gung Ho 3/10 - Contentrate 8/10 - or - Gung Ho 8/10 - Concentrate 3/10
(I believe Concentrate is better for for HighSTR builds)
Cleave 15/15 - Seism 1/10 - or - Cleave 6/15 - Seism 10/10
(i prefer Cleave than Seism since i use it a lot, it have good extra dmgs agains stunned ennemy and have allmost no time to add Seism in skill rotation)
• Embowel is for PvE 10 sec stuns (Do this then Pounce him to DEATH!)
• Stomping Kick and Giant Swings are “just for fun” and you can add thoses points to Cleave/Seism if you prefer.
Really? seems like I am able to hold cross guard for s long as I pressed it??
Also, no highlander? the 50% more crit damage from 2H swords seem nice.
it’s not crit damage, it’s only critical attack stat.
to check your critical attack stat, see F1.
What’s important to me on Highlander is cartar stroke double damage on knock downed monsters, bash>punish>cartar
I’ve been doing this for a while now on my semi-full solo 290 runs to get artils and recipes
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I might be able to free some skill point for lv6 Punish. But is the 1k attack difference worth the point because almost every build only spend 1 point in it.
I still don’t get the relevant of damage in skill level vs gear/attribute/stat/transcendence.
I’m 5 more job to doppel 3 and still haven’t transcendence any weapon.
if you ask me I don’t really think it is worth past 1 (considering the sacrifices you have to make)
once you get the taste of transcendence you will know
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It was like that on the old time when I was played sw/high/barb2 (months ago) before rerolling sw/pelta/barb3/dopp3 (now sw2 with voucher).
If Cross Guard got changes and can be hold as long as we want, don’t mind about this part of my post.
(If anyone can double check? Computer is dead atm)
@redwea I would like to invest more in punish (everybody dont have millions and days of farming to spend in transcendence) but I don’t know where you can find the points (except with resest skills potion) and I don’t think It realy worth it since it have huge cd and requiere knockdown.
i thought that hi1 attribute gives 50% crit dmg too but i was wrong , looks like sw2barb3 is the way to go , thx for usefull info @Lostac and @bephamoth
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