It’s supposed to be 5 ranks (6 Top DPS) on bosses, but even so why does sometimes only 3 DPSes are counted?
Because the other ranks are in the same party
So what if there’s only 4 people on that Dulla?
Damage threshold, you didn’t do enough to get a cube (I’m not sure of this, but my previous statement is correct)
Don’t think that’s the case. I’m in a party with my friend, we both usually get ranks even if more than 5 parties are around. Well, except for today.
ALRIGHT!
I was thinking about making a thread about this and have done a bit of research about this. Sometimes, people/groups can even come rank 7 somehow:
Damage threshold is complete BS. There should always be 5(or 6? I forget) ranks unless other people in the same party suck up the ranks. This would be a bit less obvious in the announced bosses where you see an overall party rank and individuals can still suck up ranking positions. However when it comes to bosses like dullahan and only 2 people get ranked you know something is up
You could try to misdirect people by saying “oh, it’s reversi” or “you just did an insignificant amount of damage” but neither of these are true. If you come in to a world boss and it has 1 hp left and only 2 other people have been fighting it and you do that 1 damage, you will get rank 3.
Two things that take parties/individuals off of the rankings for sure are
- Sitting
- Going out of combat
It’s possible everyone else intentionally or unintentionally went out of combat.
However I firmly believe this is a glitch and it is being abused. The method is also slowly leaking, and I guarantee this will eventually be completely public (and sooner is better than later so maybe IMC can step in and do something about it)
In a KTOS videos comments this was being discussed, as it is also being abused there. Supposedly people that are abusing it may also be banned by IMC, but any of this could be potential translation issue.
The only reproduction method I’ve seen talked about (which also may be complete BS or another translation error or another misdirection attempt) is if 5 people are ranked and your party squeezes in past rank 5, only 2 parties will get ranked. If this is true there are a few ways you can make this happen and I won’t go in to detail about that but yeah (I haven’t gotten around to personally testing this part yet. Maybe in the future. Kind of hard to find 6-7 volunteers)
tl;dr this is a bug that is being abused and people in KR may be banned for it. Maybe expect the same here
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This happened to me several times at dullahan.
Either no rank + no cube, or just 2 ranks (seems to always be just 2 ranks, never 3-4). I was partying with a player on 2 channels, and she got rank 3. Last dulla channel only 2 ranks showed, so no cube. I just need those cards.
Next ToS drama vid material.
This is very unlikely.
This is an example of you doing “all that damage” but actually doing none at all
Why tho? He ate almost half of the Mineloader’s HP, no ranks. Weird.
yep that’s my alt doppel and it still happens sometimes.
this “bug/glitch” might have occured to you.
The ranking is buggy anyways. Im often solo #1 at Dulla and then I get nothing even with Chrono support. In that case its always only shown #1 and #2 and nobody is set on #3 to #5. Not to mention the ranking is shuffled sometimes when it happens.
This happens a lot and as to what my guildmates and I have seen, it will happen if in 1 party 3 members gets ranked. Only rank 1 and 2 will get cubes. So everytime we go Dullahan, we ask all parties to use 1 DPS per party so that at least 5 parties will get cubes. This is sometimes used by high lvl people if they are sure that they will get rank 1 or 2 so that they can monopolize the cubes because even though 3 members of your pt gets ranked by they are not 1 or 2 you still wont be able to get a cube. I hope this will be fixed by IMC though.
This game is broken as fk. Earlier I went to kill Ferret Marauder. I was alone, managed to make its HP down to 3m out of 6.9m. Suddenly someone come, hit it a bit. Then when it died, no rank and cube for me. And there was only 2 of us hitting it there. Frugging game, so buggy.
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According to a source there is a way to force this to happen. As far as I’m concerned there were bans related to this, however some were appealed and one of the game publishers is waiting at the trigger to ban the next people who abuse it on certain servers.
This supposedly occurs when parties exceeding five members (through use of an exploit) attend a world boss, though I cannot confirm this with exact certainty. Someone mentioned to me that when someone in one of these parties ranks in at a boss, it negates the rank of everybody below them (anyone who ranked in higher than them will still get a ranking and cube for their party).
Again, these are only details that were told to me. I can’t confirm their validity. Don’t take these for fact, only rumor.
@Zzzzzzz - Are you certain you didn’t sit at the end for a second or wait out the combat timer (10 seconds) on accident? Those are surefire ways to get your damage contribution wiped and negate your ranking.
Pretty sure I didn’t. I hit it last with a cannon blast. But the other guy got the rank 1 and none for me.
But those triggers to remove your contributions on damage should really be removed. Also, accidental use cloaking and fade which removes all the contributed damage is really dumb for a game like this.
Yep happened in Dullahan again. 21 people all doing their best to get ranked then 1,2 ranks only appear.
Is that your character? I’m pretty sure this is unrelated… but you know, can you double-check if full-duration Pouncing could somehow reset your damage in other bosses/testings? You are doing and receiving damage, that’s visible but if somehow there’s a bug that resets your damage on full 10s channeling skill it could happen.
Look at the end of the video, Poucing ends just as the boss dies with an over 10s channeling skill.
I’ll check, I have two barb doppels and this doesn’t seem to be the problem.
but tests will have to wait tomorrow on dungeon resets
Try to make Poucing your last skill again. Make sure you do it and make it work for the entire duration possibly not getting hit. Just as a check, that bug happens sometimes too with everyone, sometimes everyone gets cube in a party but you don’t… but when this happens I’m pretty sure I don’t get silver nor cubes. Again, I’m pretty sure it’s unrelated and something like “just in case” check.
Tree of Savior’s awesome world boss system at work, folks.
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