Truth, but whatever.
I still think itās real funny that people like you call him all hardcore, based on his hours logged, or journal score.
I lolād.
Personally he earned a grats from me for reaching a goal he set, and doing it in an efficient manner.
Strangely enough it can often be the other way around as well. I guess itās because here on the net people often donāt actually consider who they are talking to? 
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Congratulations for your achievement =3. It really is viable as F2P. Now, can anyone guesstimate how much tokens will most likely cost at F2P release?
Also, it seems youāre definition of casual is different from mine. =) ā¦ and why did this post get to be this long xD
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depending on player base, 2 mil within 1 month
Edit - Personally id be willing to dish out 3-4mil for the benifits.
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so, you came on the forum to brag about having 10 tokens, you do realize that 1 good recipe drop can buy you 10 tokens right ? itās nothing to brag about, there are people with gear and atributes worth 200 tokens.
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ok think ill stop here lol
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Except you are not a casual gamer. You are not playing a casual game nor are you playing the game casually. You are not a casual gamer if you are in the Top 10% of the adventure journal. You are not a casual gamer if you are spending hours a day playing a game. The reason why it bothers people is because you are taking a label which does not apply to you.
This label then would logically get applied to everyone below you. You are essentially saying that 90% of the server population are casual gamers and that ToS is a casual game. Both are not true and you have already been judged by a group of your peers. This isnāt a cow clicker or Bejewelled Blitz. You are not whooping out ToS to play for 2 minutes while you wait in a line at Star Bucks for your non fat soy latte.
You are devoting a large amount of time everyday to playing a game. This is what being a hardcore gamer is. If you canāt accept that fine but donāt expect your fellow players to change their opinions to conform to your warped sense of reality.
His time investment is just as much hardcore as it is casual. Or rather, neither.
But not hardcore either. That would be top 1%, or top 0.1%
I think itās funny that you believe he incorrectly applies the ācasualā label to him, yet you do the same with the 'āhardcoreā label.
Besides, you failed to read the rest of the thread I think, because Iām just repeating whatās already been said before.
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It is slang so I think the Urban dictionary definition is fine at least with first few sentences which has a very elegant definition of Hardcroe Gamer. Here is the link
If you want to read a more indepth analysis Gamasutra has an awesome article here:
What most people define Hardcore Gamer as a person who plays video games for longer period of times (usually of an excess of two three hours), plays games daily and who plays games with hardcore elements (progression, competition, heavy social elements and/or complex systems.) or more elegantly put.
SOMEBODY WHO DEVOTES A LARGE AMOUNT OF TIME PLAYING GAMES WHERE GAMING IS ONE OF THERE PRIMARY HOBBIES.
So yes I am labeling him correctly.
Most peopleās defination of casual and hardcore are both all over the place and inaccurate.
You have issues with the proper defination of āāa large amount of timeāā it seems.
Nope.
Hereās an example:
Thats not the defination of a hardcore gamer.
Itās closer to the defination of a gamer (without the hardcore prefix)
Ok well site your sources on that. You seem to be going of your opinion while I am going of popular opinion. I think that is where the disconnect is happening.
They are 440k -500k on my server Orsha. Looking at the cost benefit analysis. This would not be worth my time. Keep in my mind I do work for a living.
Common sense and years of experience with gaming, both as a casual and a hardcore player, as well as everything in between?
Of those two reasons, itās mostly common sense tho.
If you need to cite an external source itās sounds like you donāt know what you are talking about.
Yeah, because popular opinion tends to be right, so very often.
For someone who works for a living (hey, what do you know, thatās actually most of us), itās not time consuming at all to get a token.
440k? 2 hours, thatās how long it would take me to earn that much.
āāI workāā is a poor excuse, really. More often then not gaming comes at the cost of other free time uses rather then work or school. Just like any other free time use.
Yeah I donāt make 440k-500k for two hours of grinding. Maybe I could maybe I just donāt know how. I am only lvl 40. That being said a token costs what roughly $10. Two hours of grinding would amount to being paid $5 an hour. I would rather just buy the token since I make way more then $5. This is of course my living situation. I am just saying. I also donāt find grinding tokens fun. I would rather throw my money into attributes anyways.
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Thereās already an emerging type of player called āMid-coreā anyway. Itās not quite hardcore, and not quite casual.
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