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Why making a top class Pardoner Buff shop is a giant waste of time and money

General Discussion
#1

I have been gathering materials and recipes to create a +1040 SPR pardoner for the past few weeks and I am going to go over the total cost of what it takes to get there and how much money you can expect to make once you have a character with over 1000 SPR

Laitas Boots
Laitas Pants
10-30 mill each depending on if you farm or buy feathers and prac

High SPR gloves and top
I got lucky and got mine for 5 mill each

4 skill gems
10-20 mill each if you don’t want to spend 20 days to farm them

Masinios Rod
20-50 mill depending if you have a recipe already

Kite Moor Necklace
20-30mill for the recipe
20-60mill for Ominous Crystals, shards, and minerals

Masinios Shield or +71 SPR dagger
40-70 mill

3 lvl 10 Linkroller cards
5 mill each

Cash shop bracelets
2-5 mill every 7 days

All in all you will be spending anywhere from 300-500 mill to get up to 1000+ SPR
Plus the weekly bracelet purchase

Now lets look at how much money you will be pulling in

Everyone prices their buffs at 800 silver each

material costs
Sacrament = x14 gyslotis = 490
Blessing = x25 Holy Powder = 500
Aspersion = x10 Holy Water = 500
Magic Def = x10 Holy water = 500

So if 1 person purchases all 4 buffs you make 1210 silver, minus the 30% BS tax = 847
Generally Top tier pardoners load up to sell 2000 of each buff in a day. If you completely sell out in a day…which does not happen…but we will pretend it does you will make a whopping

1,694,000 silver
or
11,858,000 per week
IF you sell out every day, again this does not happen.

Now you only have 1000+ SPR for 7 days before the bracelets wear off and you have to buy more TP or buy more premium items to convert into medals to buy them again.

So, best case scenario you will make…5mill silver a week.

You will need to keep your buff shop up at maximum capacity for 100+ days to recoup just the money you spent to make the pardoner in the first place.

In short, pardoner shops with +1000 SPR are NOT…NOT making money, they are doing it out of the kindness of their hearts.

If anything, anyone with 1000+ SPR is probably loosing money, and should be cranking up their price to 2000 silver a buff just to get some profits.

Thank you …goodnight.

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#2

Prices are fixed by IMC now
see https://treeofsavior.com/page/news/view.php?n=1421#patchnote_5

Summary

[Fixed Price System]

  • Each type of personal shop will now have its prices fixed, with some applying different prices depending on where they are installed.
  • See page 42 of The Popolion Post 2nd issue to read more about these changes: https://treeofsavior.com/magazine/201807/
    Equipment Maintenance: 360 (city) / 500 (field)
    Repair: 140 (city) / 200 (field)
    Gem Roasting: 10,000
    Item Awakening: 10,000
    Portal: 8,000
    Enchant Armor: 5,000
    Identify: 200
    Spell Shop: 800 (city) / 1,200 (field)
    Switch Gender: 20,000 + Mirror of Truth
Appraiser identify shop, can't change the Price
#3

Cool, please don’t make one.

The less there are, the more people will buy them buffs from specific stores

#4

I thought AAA Pardoners were funded by specific guilds. The more people you have helping you building the best Pardoner, the easier it is to achieve 1000+ SPR.

#5

How big is the difference between 800-850 (possible without TP Brackets) and 1000+ SPR?

#6

iirc 850+ SPR gives 1900 - 2000ish blessing while 1000 + SPR gives about 2300ish

#7

Linkroller cards doesn’t contribute to your shop, though it does for active buffing. But anyways, yes high SPR pardoners are making a loss. Even before the fixed price patch hits, they are already making a loss. That being said, unless there’s a 1000+ SPR pardoner in the area you are in, at least 30% of the people don’t care how many SPR that pardoner has and just randomly buy.

Just check any area with at least 2 non-1000 SPR pardoners side-by-side. You will then find that the one that has only 500+ SPR at best (but advertise himself as ‘High SPR’ or ‘Full SPR’) is getting people to buy his buffs nearly as much as the other guy that has 800-900+ SPR. A good chunk of people are actually too lazy to check gear, or even put in very slightest effort to observe that one guy has Masinios Rod while the other doesn’t. So yeah, those people with noob gears that word their shops cleverly are all making nice profits.

#8

Yep, I used to make 3 mil a night with my premium shop. Now I don’t make ■■■■. Fn Sht game

#9

I agree. Buff shop are dictates by 1 or 2 people because they have maybe 10 or 20 higher spr. People always go for the top buffer in town, even though the difference is minimal.

Spending millions of silvers on laitas, masi rod, masi shield, rodelyn gems etc just to earn that 200-300 silver per buff, not forgetting you need to replenish mat and RELOG everyday everytime imc automatically crashes channel 1 everyday, i closed my shop and leave it to those who still believes buff shop is a source of income.

#10

Buff shop is the best way to publicly promote Guild name. :tired:

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#11

I’m just going to assume the math is right.

You must have some real gold diggers in your server. In Klaipeda, none of the 1k+ SPR buffers charged more than 800. Most of them charged 750.

Strictly speaking, only Autoattack builds would notice the difference between varying SPR. For everyone else it really didn’t matter. I actually use a few AA builds myself, and I just keep buying from those pardoners on ALL of my chars out of convenience and to incentivize them to keep putting it up.

Nobody was ever making any real relative profit for virtually any type of shop, unless you were wildly overcharging. I said that in the ktos 4.0 thread. Well no, I left out the “relative” part, because I thought it was understood by most people that you made your real money by actually playing the game. I guess not.

3 mil is a day is nothing, and you know it. Seriously, where did you find the time to play to earn all the required gear in the first place?

#12

But players cant choose the price emoticon_0036

#13

That was before the price fix. Now they’re forced to make slightly more profit. Amusingly enough, all the 1k+ SPR buffers still set up shop after the price fix, except for one person who set up in Orsha ch2, but I think that person quit ToS. A few of the lower end ones don’t set up anymore because of “principles” or some bs like that.

#14

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