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Which build is better for pvp?

Class and Rank Cleric
#30

yeah but you can also make 50 diev status on gvg by you own

#31

PD is another ■■■■, but less ■■■■ than priest3.

Inceneration / Poison: 2 dmg skills, you can remove both with 1 click now … also can kill retards on pvp.
Bloodletting: nerfed to ashes but still usefull
HF: Nerfed a lot, but still usefull too
Fulmigate: Removes CC, less reliable than Indulgentia and a lot worse than Counterspell.
Pandemic: Ok Skill, you can spread nvl 1 CC’s who can be easily denied and spread a poison who can be removed by one buton … buts its ok.
Beak Mask: Usefull but self-buff.
Disenchant: Too long CD and only 60% to remove buffs, its ok because of atribute who turn all defenses to 0 … on PD3 this skills will be a monster, now its just ok.

#32

You can’t remove Incineration…
And there is a 5 limit on owl statues in GvG…

Sometimes I wonder if people know what they are talking about lol

#33

You are silly, incineration still buged for 2 weeks now, you can remove with one click.
and with clap you can also use more than 5 owls per player.

#34

There is a limit of 5 Owls in GVG if you do a 6th owl the first one will get destroyed…

Outside of GvG is another story,try doing GvG and try to clap for the 6th Owl and see what happens.

#35

id like to know much more about that nerf :D.

#36

Oracle > PD for pvp, this is pretty well known. Since miko is r6 you would have to take oracle at r7 to be pvp viable.

#37

Fumigate (30s CD) and Gohei (8s CD) can counter Ausrine.

But can you tell me what can counter Swap, Magnetic Force, and Raise?
Aside from Counter Spell (90s CD)

#38

I still think plague doc is better in this build cleric 2 diev 3 miko pd inqui… because u have a lot of more stuffs to use… oracle just has counter spell ( long cd) and prophecy (only for rank 1 debufs)… while pd gives u bl , bk, hf… bl duration is just 20 secs but its for debufs lv 1 and 2, and u have miko to cure status ailments of ur alies and fumigate…

#39
  • Reversi (Best)
  • Detonate (Best)
  • Capture (Poor)
  • Mackangdal (Indirect counter) (Medium)
  • Ausrine (Indirect counter) (Best)
  • Safety Zone (Indirect counter) (Poor)
  • Fumigate and Indulgentia can counter Raise (Medium)
  • Anguish Pears (Best)

And a loooooooooot more but I don’t want to share it sorry

#40

BL and HF got nerf a lot in PVP

If you go PD you need to go C2 and for mainly for the Damage.Support PD is best only at C1 and going C2 would be a waste.However, with the nerfs in PVP PD support is worst than Oracle C1 now.

So for Support only

PD < Oracle

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#41

if u say so , I dont know about these nerfs , can u tell me?

#42

Plague Doctor

Healing Factor

  • Duration now lasts a fixed duration of 27 seconds.
  • Skill Cooldown will increase by 20 Seconds.

Bloodletting

  • Duration becomes 15s + 2 per level.
  • Skill Cooldown will increase by 20 Seconds.
#43

Oh in that case, let me add some more (counters) to Ausrine.

  • Raise (Best, soaks up duration of the buff)
  • Pretty much CC, and there is too much to count (Medium)
  • Haste (Indirect counter) (Medium)
  • Kiting (Best)
#44

  • Ausrine has a 20 second duration with DM not sure if the broom will boost it to 22 seconds.Raise is only 10 seconds,11 seconds with DM.

  • Try telling your TBL team or Guild in GVG to kite a mass of players with Ausrine and tell me how that works out.A good Diev C3 player knows if the others don’t have aus that they will wait it out.

  • Ausrine is not god like because of its own,it’s god like because of the other classes and skills you can combine it with.Ausrine is used to make plays either offensively or defensively.

The only counter to Ausrine I say is Gokei and Disenchant.

Most of what you said is not a counter to Ausrine but a way of preventing it.

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#45

So, which is better ? Priest 3 or diev 3 =)?

Priest 3
Revive(best)
Ress(best)
Stone Skin(medium)
Aspersion(best)
Mass heal(best)

Diev 3
Slow huge AOE(best)
Silence(good)
Ausrine(best)
Owl(good)

Which one is more effective for pvp(tbl and gvg)? =x

#46

Diev3 is your best bet for a first pvp cleric. Priest3 is tougher to play and more situational. Once you get to the top level of play and miko is released, I would say they are even.

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#47

I don’t think diev is good in pvp. You can surely get some zone with the skills but it is useless as it is easily avoidable by not going in front of the owls or the silence (world tree) can be attacked by range atttacks that even swordman has some. I think priest is very good to revive the char and buffs.

#48

Invulnerable to all CC? Including knockdown and coursing?

#49

coursing i have not tested, knockdown yes you are full immune.