But hopefully aside from adding the neutrality option, I hope they add the PvP Battle and Guild Battle League. That should solve the hunger for PvP of these guilds to show their e-peens.
No man, IMC is trying to create old school mmo experience!
How else will we get drama and tears?
ToS is on track for being one of the most dramatic old school experience yet!
Keep the pvp leagues out, let pvp guild bully carebears, letāem tears rain!
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but, wouldnāt it be more tasty if you drank tears from those who wanted to do PvP than those who only wanted to walk around.
Itās like rape man, which is bad.
But but-tsecks at prisons are good, as what others sayā¦ (Do not pick up the soap).
This is how you kill a game.
Say goodbye to new players
If IMC allows neutrality then most guild will pick it and spoil the funā¦ pvp is funā¦ so what if you die itās not like you lose something
Thus the PvP battle league and Guild Battle league.
Unless their e-peens are too small to battle actual guilds who goes on battle leagues. 
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I suppose if they enable 5vs5 it would be good, especially if you can get exp cards as rewards
Iād be fine with having a guild to house a few friends and have a chat, donāt care about all that other stuff
Canāt I just create a guild, invite people, and then not build a tower?
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Yes you can not build a tower
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I wouldnāt really call āPerson A killing person B while person B has no interest in the duell and doesnāt have the capabilities of properly defending himselfā pvp, itās just ganking and/or griefing.
If you want real pvp, do with with other people who want pvp and are actually a challenge
Source?
Also, old-school mmo experience does not neccessarily mean āalways pvpā, there are many old-school mmos which didnāt have pvp on.
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Oldschool MMO experience huh? I only want play a smooth GvG experience aside from that youād have to compare IMCās track record with Gravity.
Yes THIS.
fkin carebears lol
So far my experience with any guild declaring war has been they are total chicken ā ā ā ā . Weāve got a good few kinos and other decent PVP classes even though weāre not organized as a PVP guild so when they declare and then end up being the ones getting sodomized repeatedly near our tower they inevitably give up and go hide. Since none of us care enough to go hunt for their tower, and destroying a tower doesnāt end the war for whatever reason anyway and only the declaring guild can end it, what inevitably ends up happening is that once our members are offline the cravens will crawl out of their hidey holes and destroy our tower, then go back to hiding. Sure, we could go scour the earth looking for their tower tucked away in some remote corner because theyāre obviously cowards, but itās just a waste of time.
The guild war system is garbage and thereās no gain in it for anyone so Iād rather not partake until such a time as they give you a reason to, and make the system less nonsensical. The only ālogicalā reason to war someone right now would be staking out territory if theyāve got their tower in a location you want yours at. At the very least you should only be able to declare war on guilds that have their tower in the same map as yours so you canāt hide, and it should end at tower destruction.
Seems like weāll be getting guild neutrality after all
Yep looks like it.
No arena or guild battle but guild neutrality introduced.
Honestly I feel there should be guild neutrality but for those who do fight other guilds there needs to be better rewards like a point system to buy certain things or maybe a way to get talt or such . To make it more interesting for those who fight should be a alliance system to Make larger scale battles . And of course the lower the odds of your guild winning * maybe compares guilds stats or what* and if you win against a better or stronger guild the rewards are higher . But I feel kills and tower should give points and wars being not just about finding some tower that canāt do nothing but look pretty . It needs or be able to fight and defend ifself against invaders
EDIT: didnāt know this was already fixed.
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Iām all for GVG, but this just looks like bullying.
Guilds are where you make friends and memories. Itās where you get to meet people of different races and culture. People you share blood sweat and tears only to get talts.
Iāve had many friends Iāve met in guilds from previous MMOs that are now my friends IRL. Iāve even visited one in CO. free lodging and 420. woohoo!
I like GvG, GVG is the end game for me. But yeah, this current system will deter other players from joining guilds and thatās just a waste. People quit sooner if they are alone. Iām pretty sure a lot of people are just staying here because of guild/friends.